From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1HUWzB-0001SF-BJ for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:46:25 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HUWz9-0001NH-Js for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:46:23 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HUWz7-0001Fw-C3 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:46:23 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUWz7-0001FT-7I; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:46:21 -0500 Received: from [212.85.152.101] (helo=kotoba.storever.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HUWxG-00038A-Fg; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:44:26 -0400 Received: from kotoba.oasis.nexedi.com (kotoba.oasis.nexedi.com [212.85.152.101]) by kotoba.storever.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E993CEF0039; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:24:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [??1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kotoba.storever.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5873CEF0034; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:24:41 +0100 (CET) From: "Yoshinori K. Okuji" Organization: enbug.org To: grub-devel@gnu.org Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:44:16 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <4600d7ad.0fbdf68c.519b.057c@mx.google.com> <873b3wlwq4.wl@dekkers.cx> In-Reply-To: <873b3wlwq4.wl@dekkers.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703230044.16884.okuji@enbug.org> X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000165, version=0.17.2 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Cc: summer-of-code@gnu.org, Jeroen Dekkers , xiongyi Subject: Re: Question about the GNU Grub ideas X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:46:23 -0000 On Thursday 22 March 2007 23:49, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > I am a potential student applicant for the "Google-summer -of -code" > > program. And I am strongly interested in the GNU Grub project, especially > > for the porting grubs to the EFI-based PC platform idea. But there are > > few messages or information about EFI porting for grub2. So I have some > > questions about this idea. > > I don't have any experience with EFI, but as far as I know GRUB2 > already boots on intel macs and other EFI-based x86 machines. Although > it probably still needs a lot of work, that isn't going to be enough > for a Summer of Code project. Why not enough? EFI has a significant amount of share in the market, and I see nothing bad with working on EFI stuff. I have already written the status in the wiki: http://grub.enbug.org/TestingOnEFI In addition, we need Multiboot support on EFI as well. > My experience is that while you can develop and test on such things, > real hardware has subtle differences most of the time and you always > need hardware to test whether it really works. Definitely. You can use emulators for development, but you need real hardware at some point. Note that the payment from SoC is good enough to buy a Mac Mini, for example. Okuji