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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@insightbb.com>
To: Li Yu <raise.sail@gmail.com>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	yanghong@ccoss.com.cn,
	linux-usb-devel <linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	hongzhiyi@ccoss.com.cn, Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] [RFC] HID bus design overview.
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 00:15:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200704020015.44167.dtor@insightbb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4610609C.9030101@gmail.com>

On Sunday 01 April 2007 21:47, Li Yu wrote:
> Let me explain the internal of my current HID bus implementation. I
> think that selecting one user scene as example is good idea.
> 
> Well, the user A plug a USB joystick into computer. The work processing
> of HID subsystem for this joystick is same with our mind: The USB/base
> driver works for it. However, the world is not faultless. This joystick
> is buggy, its some keys need specific handling, our good friend udev
> discover that there is also have another driver can handle it, so it
> insert that kernel module, then our sweet leading role specific/shadow
> HID driver appear on scene. Registering shadow driver let HID core clone
> a hid_device first, and start new usage configuration processing for new
> cloned hid_device (if we like, even I think we can reread reports from
> physical device), the shadow driver can join with HID core to
> custom/hook in this recofiguration processing. If this shadow driver is
> input-able, the HID core will unregister working input device come from
> USB/base hid_device, and register new input device for this shadow
> hid_device. So we have not two input_dev for one HID device at same time.
>

No, please don't do that. As soon as there is a special driver written
for a device that device's VID/PID should be added to generic HID
blacklist. This way udev will load the proper driver right away and
there will not be any flip-flopping of input devices. 
 
> When user A remove this shadow driver, the USB/base driver should resume
> work for this joystick, IOW, it should register back its input device again.
> 

Why would we want to revert to using generic HID's implementation if we
know that it is broken for that particular device???

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-02  4:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-05  7:32 [DOC] The documentation for HID Simple Driver Interface 0.5.0 Li Yu
2007-03-05 20:44 ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-03-05 20:11   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-05 22:40     ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-03-06 13:25       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-06 13:47       ` Jiri Kosina
2007-03-06 18:57         ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-03-05 21:47   ` Jiri Kosina
2007-03-05 22:12 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Jiri Kosina
2007-03-05 22:27   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-06  1:37     ` Liyu
     [not found]     ` <45ECC5A4.20203@ccoss.com.cn>
2007-03-06  9:40       ` Jiri Kosina
2007-03-06 11:52       ` Harold Sargeant
2007-03-06  7:01   ` Robert Marquardt
2007-03-06  7:37     ` Jiri Kosina
2007-03-19 10:44 ` [RFC] HID bus design overview Li Yu
2007-03-26  8:27   ` [linux-usb-devel] " Marcel Holtmann
2007-03-28  1:58     ` Li Yu
     [not found]     ` <4609CAF2.3040303@ccoss.com.cn>
2007-03-28  7:51       ` Jiri Kosina
2007-03-28 19:00         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-28 19:13           ` Jiri Kosina
2007-03-30  3:06           ` Li Yu
2007-03-30  4:33             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-30  5:37               ` Li Yu
2007-03-30 16:13                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-31 22:49               ` Jiri Kosina
2007-04-02  1:47                 ` Li Yu
2007-04-02  4:15                   ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2007-04-02  7:07                     ` Li Yu
2007-04-02  7:42                       ` Greg KH
2007-04-02  9:34                       ` Jiri Kosina
2007-04-02 12:40                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-02  4:09                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-02  9:37                   ` Jiri Kosina
2007-04-02 10:14                     ` Robert Marquardt
2007-04-02 12:21           ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-04-02 12:33             ` Jiri Kosina
2007-04-02 16:47               ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-04-03  1:15                 ` Li Yu
2007-04-03  3:42                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-03  8:57                   ` Jiri Kosina
2007-04-04  0:55                     ` Li Yu
2007-04-04 14:54                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-04-04 23:01                     ` Adam Kropelin
2007-04-04 23:12                       ` Jiri Kosina
2007-04-04 23:34                         ` Adam Kropelin
2007-04-05  8:36                           ` Jiri Kosina
2007-04-05 14:08                             ` Adam Kropelin
     [not found]                           ` <46189FE3.6050206@gmail.com>
2007-04-09  1:54                             ` [linux-usb-devel] HID bus prototype - 20070408 Li Yu
2007-04-10  9:40                             ` Jiri Kosina
2007-04-10 11:00                               ` [linux-usb-devel] " Li Yu
2007-04-05  1:25                     ` [linux-usb-devel] [RFC] HID bus design overview Li Yu
2007-04-05  3:09                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-05  5:28                         ` Li Yu
2007-04-05  6:47                           ` Li Yu
2007-04-06  0:58                         ` Li Yu
2007-03-29  5:37         ` Li Yu
2007-03-29  9:24           ` Jiri Kosina
2007-04-02 12:19           ` Marcel Holtmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-02 11:57 Nicolas Mailhot
2007-04-03  1:40 ` Li Yu
2007-04-03  3:41   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-04-03  9:00   ` Jiri Kosina
2007-04-05 18:10     ` Paul Walmsley

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