From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Aaron Lehmann <aaronl@vitelus.com>, Jim Paris <jim@jtan.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: NIC data corruption
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 20:07:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070402180717.GA32435@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46114158.2030007@hp.com>
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 10:46:00AM -0700, Rick Jones wrote:
> I changed the title to be more accurate, and culled the distribution to
> individuals and netdev
>
> The mention of trying to turn-off CKO and see if the data corruption
> goes away leads me to ask a possibly "delicate" question:
>
> Should "Linux" only enable CKO on those NICs certified to have
> ECC/parity throughout their _entire_ data path?
Even with reliable software checksumming you can have quite a lot of undetected
errors (there was a interesting study about this some years ago).
If you really care about your data you should use SSL or some
other protocol with strong checksums.
That said it would probably make quite a lot of people unhappy
because it would make their NICs much slower and the occasional
bit error that is missed by the NIC is likely not a big issue for them.
What might be a good idea would to have some optional knob
somewhere that allows to disable hardware checksumming for NICs
that are not trusted this way. But then someone would need to
do the necessary research for the hundreds of NICs Linux support
Just providing a general global "disable hardware checksumming"
knob for the paranoid would be much easier. I guess that would
be a good idea.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-02 18:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-01 1:27 Silent corruption on AMD64 Aaron Lehmann
2007-04-01 2:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-01 3:20 ` Aaron Lehmann
2007-04-01 3:03 ` Jim Paris
2007-04-01 4:39 ` Aaron Lehmann
2007-04-01 13:58 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-02 17:46 ` NIC data corruption Rick Jones
2007-04-02 18:07 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-04-04 5:00 ` Herbert Xu
2007-04-04 18:45 ` Silent corruption with r8169 Francois Romieu
2007-04-04 20:06 ` Aaron Lehmann
2007-04-04 20:45 ` Francois Romieu
2007-04-05 11:41 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-02 13:30 ` Silent corruption on AMD64 Stuart MacDonald
2007-04-02 13:30 ` Stuart MacDonald
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