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From: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
To: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	Marcus Glocker <mglocker@openbsd.org>,
	Jon Simola <jsimola@gmail.com>, Theo de Raadt <deraadt@theos.com>,
	Stefano Brivio <stefano.brivio@polimi.it>,
	Martin Langer <martin-langer@gmx.de>,
	Danny van Dyk <kugelfang@gentoo.org>,
	Andreas Jaggi <andreas.jaggi@waterwave.ch>,
	Larry Finger <larry.finger@lwfinger.net>,
	Quaker.Fang@sun.com, Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Joseph Jezak <josejx@gentoo.org>,
	John Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>, Greg kh <greg@kroah.com>,
	bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	license-violation@gpl-violations.org
Subject: Re: OpenBSD bcw: Possible GPL license violation issues
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 23:26:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200704052326.23288.mb@bu3sch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200704052056.l35KuTIr025210@cvs.openbsd.org>

On Thursday 05 April 2007 22:56, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> It makes me happy to show that I have empathy for a situation where
> someone who puts hundreds of hours of work in as a hobby, and to
> defend that person.  It makes me extremely unhappy that I have to do
> so, and that some other people think this is a non-event.

We put THOUSANDS of hours of work into bcm43xx and you
simply relicense it without permission. Your point being?

> > > <rest deleted, because the above line is so important>
> > 
> > Snipped?  I presume, then, you admit you are misrepresenting others' 
> > opinions in this thread.
> 
> No, there was a side discussion about whitespace and variable naming,
> and even algorithms covered by the GPL.  Gimme a break.  These were
> essentially claimed by some of the examples shown by Michael.  Go look
> carefully.

You simply don't get it. These were EXAMPLES of why we think the
code was copied 1:1. This has NOTHING to do with copyright law
at this point. It simply shows: "Oh look, you named that variable
or that function exactly like I did, although the specs did not
suggest naming. Unlikely to be so by coincidence."

> That said, there were more real issues, and those have been dealt with
> in a reply from Marcus, plus the driver now being deleted.

I want to point out again that I _never_ made it a requirement
to delete the driver. I offered ways to handle it by going through
the code and judging on a case-by-case base of what can stay and
what has to be rewritten by you.

> The Italian dude in particular was complaining bitterly in private
> mail about the whitespace similarities... good grief, not whitespace
> similarities.  How SCO of him.

Yeah. Must be coincidence that you typed whitespace exactly like
we did. I'm sure this didn't come from copying, but from coincidence.

[Irony may be found in the mail above]

-- 
Greetings Michael.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-05 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-04 20:08 OpenBSD bcw: Possible GPL license violation issues Michael Buesch
2007-04-04 21:39 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05  0:18   ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05  0:29     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05  0:52       ` Joseph Jezak
2007-04-05  1:56         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05  2:07           ` Joseph Jezak
2007-04-05  2:10             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:03               ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:05                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:40                   ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:44                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:00                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:30                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 18:32                         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:39                           ` Paul Marks
2007-04-05 18:41                             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:47                           ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 18:48                             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:09                               ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 19:13                                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:20                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-05 19:13                                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:25                                   ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 19:29                                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:45                                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 19:46                                         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:35                                     ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 19:31                               ` Pavel Roskin
2007-04-05 19:37                                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:57                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2007-04-05 20:10                                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:19                                       ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 21:25                                         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:36                                           ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 21:39                                             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 22:46                                               ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 23:23                                                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 23:34                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 23:34                                                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 23:46                                                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 23:51                                                         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-06  0:00                                                           ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-06  0:02                                                           ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 22:59                                               ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-04-05 23:28                                                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-06  9:04                                                   ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-04-06  9:14                                                     ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-06 10:53                                                       ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-04-05 22:03                                           ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 21:23                                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-06  0:19                                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-06  5:12                                   ` Pavel Roskin
2007-04-05  0:59       ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05  1:12         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05  1:40           ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 16:41       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 16:42         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 16:57   ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:00     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:35       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:40         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:54       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-05 20:21         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 20:26           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-05 20:28             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 20:39               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-05 20:56                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:21                   ` David Miller
2007-04-05 23:21                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 23:23                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:26                   ` Michael Buesch [this message]
2007-04-05 21:33                     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 21:49                       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 21:52                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 21:53                   ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-08 11:21   ` Pieter Hulshoff
2007-04-04 22:22 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-04 22:35   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 16:59   ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05  5:41 ` Marcus Glocker
2007-04-05 16:34   ` Marcus Glocker
2007-04-05 16:36     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:31     ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:36       ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 16:47   ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 16:48     ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:14       ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:25         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 17:53           ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 17:54             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:28             ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:40               ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-05 18:42                 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 19:08                   ` Stefano Brivio
2007-04-05 17:29         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-05 18:10         ` Theo de Raadt
2007-04-07  8:12   ` Joerg Mayer
2007-04-08  0:04 ` Pieter Hulshoff
2007-04-08 13:27 ` Reyk Floeter
2007-04-08 13:50   ` Michael Buesch
2007-04-08 18:29     ` Reyk Floeter
2007-04-08 17:06   ` Pavel Roskin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-12  9:28 nihil

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