From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1HbfAO-0006zb-Fp for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:55:28 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HbfAN-0006wP-5q for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:55:27 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HbfAM-0006uA-Hl for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:55:26 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HbfAM-0006ta-5j for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:55:26 -0400 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hbf6H-0000Pj-Jt for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:51:14 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.6] (helo=aragorn) by aybabtu.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hbf68-0003S6-Vz for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:51:06 +0200 Received: from rmh by aragorn with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hbf5k-0001q4-1x for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:50:40 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:50:40 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20070411155040.GA6722@aragorn> References: <20061015101842.GC4265@khazad.dyndns.org> <20061127170016.GA5132@aragorn> <200611280826.48370.okuji@enbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200611280826.48370.okuji@enbug.org> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Microsoft discourages use of Outlook. X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-detected-kernel: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: update-grub again (Re: ping (update-grub2)) X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:55:27 -0000 On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 08:26:48AM +0100, Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote: I'm terribly late at repliing here :-) - sorry about that. It's about lack of time, not lack of interest. > On Monday 27 November 2006 18:00, Robert Millan wrote: > > No comments? Are you interested in getting this into the main grub tree? > > In my opinion, since update-grub needs a rewrite it's a good oportunity to > > merge this now and unify grub.cfg generation across distributions > > (something that wasn't possible with the old update-grub because of > > copyright issues). > > > > That said, if you don't like the idea then we could proceed adding it in > > debian, but that might close the door to merging in the future (maintaining > > the script in debian ourselves implies accepting contributions from many > > people without any paperwork arrangements). > > I describe my own opinion. If others do not agree, let me know. > > If the script is generic enough, and other projects are willing to use it, it > is convenient to put it in official versions ("official" means "upstream" in > Debian, but I don't like the term "upstream" very much, BTW). So, in this > case, I accept it. But if it is used only for Debian, I don't think it is > worth doing. The script is not Debian-specific in nature, and it can be used by other distributors. Of course, since I wrote it in Debian it's not known to work elsewhere, but there's nothing inherently unportable about it. > I know it is not so nice to put distribution-specific scripts in official > versions with my past experience, because official versions are not always > synchronized with distribution versions, so when a script in an official > version is "outdated" for a distribution, it is necessary to locally patch > the script, and this effort can be quite painful, if you always need to make > patches for every version. > > That's why we don't have the directory "debian" any longer. We had it in GRUB > legacy in version 0.5.92 or something when Gordon was the maintainer of the > GRUB package in Debian. But this became really annoying after Gordon got > inactive, because I had no idea on how to maintain it, as I was not a Debian > user then. And, someone (I think he was Jason Thomas) complained, and I > decided to drop it from the official version. I understand your concern. Shouldn't be a problem with update-grub IMHO. If you're ok with it, I'll refurbish it into a patch against CVS so that you can confirm the changes. -- Robert Millan My spam trap is honeypot@aybabtu.com. Note: this address is only intended for spam harvesters. Writing to it will get you added to my black list.