From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752062AbXDQDbr (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:31:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753918AbXDQDbr (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:31:47 -0400 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:43780 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752062AbXDQDbq (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:31:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:31:20 +0200 From: Nick Piggin To: Matt Mackall Cc: Ingo Molnar , Con Kolivas , Peter Williams , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Mike Galbraith , Arjan van de Ven , Thomas Gleixner Subject: Re: [Announce] [patch] Modular Scheduler Core and Completely Fair Scheduler [CFS] Message-ID: <20070417033120.GC25513@wotan.suse.de> References: <20070413202100.GA9957@elte.hu> <200704151327.13589.kernel@kolivas.org> <20070415150536.GA6623@elte.hu> <20070415200535.GC11166@waste.org> <20070415204824.GA25813@elte.hu> <20070415213153.GW11115@waste.org> <20070416030349.GB13626@wotan.suse.de> <20070416142823.GX11115@waste.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070416142823.GX11115@waste.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 09:28:24AM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 05:03:49AM +0200, Nick Piggin wrote: > > I'd prefer if we kept a single CPU scheduler in mainline, because I > > think that simplifies analysis and focuses testing. > > I think you'll find something like 80-90% of the testing will be done > on the default choice, even if other choices exist. So you really > won't have much of a problem here. > > But when the only choice for other schedulers is to go out-of-tree, > then only 1% of the people will try it out and those people are > guaranteed to be the ones who saw scheduling problems in mainline. > So the alternative won't end up getting any testing on many of the > workloads that work fine in mainstream so their feedback won't tell > you very much at all. Yeah I concede that perhaps it is the only way to get things going any further. But how do we decide if and when the current scheduler should be demoted from default, and which should replace it?