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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Cabot, Mason B" <mason.b.cabot@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Ext3 vs NTFS performance
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 15:28:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070502192849.GD19442@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p73y7k7vzks.fsf@bingen.suse.de>

On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 08:40:35PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 02:21:40PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> > > > 
> > > > Conceivably we could address this in the filesystem without mucking other
> > > > things up.  But I'd have thought the simplest damage-control would be to
> > > > detect this pattern in samba and to then use glibc's fallocate().
> > > 
> > > The advantage of detecting it in kernel would be that it would handle
> > > Linux applications that do this (I suspect there are some) too.
> > 
> > Um, which applications do you suspect?  So we can hunt down those user
> > space applications programmers and slap them silly?  Or rather,
> > unsilly, since that there's no good reason to ever suspect that
> > writing a byte every 128k would result in a good allocation layout on disk?
> 
> Anything that uses glibc fallocate() ?

Glibc's fallocate current writes all zeros, not 1 byte every
128kbytes.  And once we wire up the new sys_fallocate() support, we'll
have the right preallocation support in ext4.

					- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-02 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-01 20:43 Ext3 vs NTFS performance Cabot, Mason B
2007-05-01 21:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 12:21   ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-02 16:04     ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02 18:40       ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-02 19:28         ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2007-05-02 16:16   ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02 18:08     ` Jeremy Allison
2007-05-02 19:34       ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02 20:38         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-02 22:01           ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02  3:54 ` Gerhard Mack
2007-05-02 15:46   ` David Chinner
2007-05-02 15:44 ` David Chinner
2007-05-02 19:46   ` Chris Mason
2007-05-03  0:15     ` David Chinner
2007-05-03 12:57       ` Chris Mason
2007-05-03 21:14   ` Valerie Henson
2007-05-03 22:40     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-05-04  8:12       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-04  9:46         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-04 14:47           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-04 15:49           ` Michael Tokarev
2007-05-04 18:41             ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-05  9:59             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-06 20:59           ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-04 12:23     ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-04 19:40       ` Valerie Henson
2007-05-04 18:56 ` Phillip Susi
2007-05-04 19:52   ` Cabot, Mason B
2007-05-07 14:31     ` Phillip Susi
2007-09-12 23:47 ` Update: " Cabot, Mason B
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-03  3:51 Al Boldi
2007-05-05  3:13 Xu CanHao
2007-05-05 13:45 ` Theodore Tso
     [not found] <8hiYr-2fJ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8huGm-2W4-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-05-05 22:25   ` Bodo Eggert
2007-05-06  5:04     ` Xu CanHao
2007-05-06  1:48 Albert Cahalan
     [not found] <8gShI-3hY-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8h1bh-8sG-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <8h2Al-280-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <8hW9y-2Lp-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-05-07 11:21       ` Bodo Eggert

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