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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>,
	Antonino Ingargiola <tritemio@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.22-rc1
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 21:15:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070514201516.GA20783@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0705141139560.6739@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 11:43:45AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 14 May 2007, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > 
> > Sure, we don't allow that. Except for xfsprogs in 2.6.1, procps in
> > 2.6.4, oprofile in 2.6.13 and udev in 2.6.19, of course.
> 
> And we really complained about it! The oprofile thing should be fixed, 
> btw, and yeah,if udev breaks any more, I'll have to stop taking patches 
> from Greg. That thing has been a disaster, and everybody involved should 
> be ashamed and now hopefully *very* aware of the fact that we don't break 
> user-level interfaces.

sysfs is an even bigger desaster.  Even if people know they can't break
userspace apis sysfs can force it on them.  As long as we tightly couple
kernel data structures and a userspace ABI that's unavoidable.  Unfortunately
sorting that mess out properly would be such a massive amount of work
that it'd alsmost require a 2.7 series.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-14 20:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-13  3:20 Linux 2.6.22-rc1 Linus Torvalds
2007-05-13  9:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-17  6:55   ` Len Brown
2007-05-13  9:29 ` Linux 2.6.22-rc1, 'nother randconfig Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-14 11:44   ` David Howells
2007-05-14 17:23     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-15  9:26       ` David Howells
2007-05-15  9:40         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-13  9:47 ` [PATCH] driver core: fix warning of temporarily unused multithreaded probing function (was: Re: Linux 2.6.22-rc1) Borislav Petkov
2007-05-14  8:06   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-13 12:44 ` Linux 2.6.22-rc1 Alessandro Suardi
2007-05-13 12:44 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-05-13 17:10 ` Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-13 17:53   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-13 18:50     ` Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-14  6:10       ` Jean Delvare
2007-05-14  8:34         ` Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-14 12:14           ` Jean Delvare
2007-05-14 13:28             ` Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-14 15:21               ` Jean Delvare
2007-05-14 16:04                 ` Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-14 16:23                   ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-14 18:08                   ` Jean Delvare
2007-05-14 18:25                     ` Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-14 16:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-14 18:24                   ` Jean Delvare
2007-05-14 18:43                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-14 19:28                       ` Jean Delvare
2007-05-14 19:53                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-14 20:18                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-14 20:17                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-14 20:15                       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2007-05-15 20:31             ` CONFIG_BREAK_MY_MACHINE was " Pavel Machek
2007-05-16 18:11               ` CONFIG_BREAK_MY_MACHINE Jean Delvare
2007-05-17  8:32                 ` CONFIG_BREAK_MY_MACHINE Hans de Goede
2007-05-17  8:47                   ` CONFIG_BREAK_MY_MACHINE Pavel Machek
2007-05-13 18:19 ` Linux 2.6.22-rc1 Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-13 23:20   ` David Miller
2007-05-13 23:32     ` Roland Dreier
2007-05-13 23:57     ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-14  4:37     ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-05-14  4:53       ` David Miller
2007-05-14  6:21     ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-14 17:21   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-14 17:32     ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-14 20:27       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-14 18:01     ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-14 20:33       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-14 21:40         ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-14 22:09           ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-15  3:02             ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-15  8:08               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-14 21:54         ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-15  2:34         ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-15  2:42           ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-15  6:05             ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-15  6:01           ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-15  8:16           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-16  1:52             ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-16  6:29               ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-16  9:56                 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-15 10:43           ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-16  1:39             ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-16  9:14               ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-16  9:17                 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-15  5:35         ` Michael Gerdau
2007-05-13 20:51 ` 2.6.22-rc1: loop.c Alexey Dobriyan
2007-05-14  3:52   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-13 22:53 ` Linux 2.6.22-rc1 Jeff Chua
2007-05-14  1:08 ` andrew hendry
2007-05-14  7:49 ` V4L Regression (Was: Linux 2.6.22-rc1) Robert Fitzsimons
2007-05-15  4:14 ` Linux 2.6.22-rc1 andrew hendry
2007-05-15  4:38   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-15  5:10     ` andrew hendry
2007-05-15 15:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-15 22:50         ` andrew hendry
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-13  6:00 Jeff Chua
2007-05-13  6:13 ` Jeff Chua
2007-05-13  8:04 ` Jan Engelhardt

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