Re: [Qemu-devel] Porting QEMU to PalmOS

[Jason Brand <kitambi@epicsol.org>]

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Palm API reference:
http://www.access-company.com/developers/documents/docs/palmos/PalmOSReference/ReferenceTOC.html

You'll need to install (with ports, apt-get, or what have you):
m68k-palmos-gcc
m68k-palmos-gdb (not required, but very useful)
m86k-palmos-binutils
palmos sdk
pilrc

PalmOS has its own C library, which makes it painfully frustrating to
code for at times.  The API reference is invaluable.

Good luck.

On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 04:33:26PM -0700, Jonathan Kalbfeld wrote:
>  Still sounds fantistically fun.
> 
>  Maybe you can point me in the right direction to write PalmOS programs
>  (.prc's right?).
> 
>  I have some goofy ideas for things to write for my Treo.
> 
>  jonathan
> 
>  On 5/24/07, sinisa marovic <sinisamarovic@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm afraid I will have to dissapoint you: it will be only isapc with no
> > networking or other fancy devices. Main goal is the ability to run dos
> > games.
> > I do not know how familiar are you with PalmOS developer support. It
> > is poor, gcc lack many important functions that have to be written from
> > scratch. When I ported dosbox (which is written in c++) I realized that
> > there is no support for vectors, iterators, namespaces etc, so I had to
> > write many operators myself. The biggest problem with QEMU is that
> > it uses signals a lot, and, guess what, PalmOS has no support for signals
> > _at_ _all_. I found a way to get things going without them for now, but
> > this has it's drawbacks. I will have to think about something better later
> > on.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Jonathan Kalbfeld <jonathan.kalbfeld@gmail.com>
> > To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:18:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Porting QEMU to PalmOS
> >
> > One definite plus with having QEMU for PalmOS is the ability to run things
> > like OpenVPN (even if slow) and connect to a VPN back-end.
> >
> > As is, I use OpenVPN tunnels to link up my QEMU machines on Solaris.
> >
> > jonathan
> >
> > On 5/23/07, Wolfgang Schildbach <
> > Wolfgang.Schildbach@codingtechnologies.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Try compiling as position-dependent (i.e. not PIC) code. GOT is a
> > > typical
> > > feature of position independent code.
> > >
> > > - Wolfgang
> > >
> > > qemu-devel-bounces+wolfgang.schildbach=codingtechnologies.com@nongnu.org
> > > wrote on 23.05.2007 13:20:22:
> > >
> > > > Hi Johannes,
> > > >
> > > >    thanks for your quick response.
> > > > I thought QEMU was already compiled and run on an ARM machine?
> > > > If so, how come that noone else had such problem (I searched for it
> > > > on google),
> > > > and PXA255 is a standard ARM CPU with a few additional instructions.
> > > > And how to make them not come from GOT, those vars are declared as
> > > extern,
> > > > so they are globals?
> > > >
> > > > BR,
> > > >    Voda.
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: Johannes Schindelin < Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
> > > > To: sinisa marovic <sinisamarovic@yahoo.com>
> > > > Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:48:59 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Porting QEMU to PalmOS
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 23 May 2007, sinisa marovic wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Relocation types that fail are 25 and 26, which are R_ARM_GOTPC and
> > > > > R_ARM_GOT32 respectively. Their names are:
> > > > >
> > > > > _GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_
> > > > > cc_table
> > > > > __op_param1
> > > > > __op_param2
> > > > > __op_param3
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a way to fix this?
> > > >
> > > > The GOT is an offset table. Many CPUs have fixed-size instruction
> > > sets,
> > > > which means that you cannot easily jump to an absolute address, since
> > > the
> > > > address alone would already fill up the size.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, this is a no-no for QEmu, since the _same_ function snippet
> > > > will be reused _multiple_ times. So, the address must not come from a
> > > GOT,
> > > > but be inserted directly into the code.
> > > >
> > > > I do not remember off-hand how I managed to do this a couple of years
> > > ago,
> > > > when I worked on a MIPS host, but there _are_ gcc options to avoid a
> > > GOT.
> > > >
> > > > Hth,
> > > > Dscho
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate
> > > > in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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