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From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: Michael-Luke Jones <mlj28@cam.ac.uk>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 3/3] PM: Disable _request_firmware before hibernation/suspend
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:19:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705291719.20197.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1180343171.4242.15.camel@lov.localdomain>

On Monday 28 May 2007 5:06 am, Kay Sievers wrote:
> Well, 10 seconds are just to short for userspace to react on some
> setups, from tiny boxes which are busy, to 512 CPU boxes enumerating
> thousands of devices, all had problems here. Any timeout for a
> firmware-request is just a broken concept, the request should wait
> forever, to be fulfilled or canceled from userspace when it's ready.

If it's spawning a new usermode helper process, then figuring out when to give 
up and exit is that process's job.  If it _can't_ exec usermode helper, then 
that should fail immediately.

Where does the timeout come in?

Rob

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-29 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-27 20:29 [RFC][PATCH -mm 0/3] PM: Hibernation and suspend notifiers Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 20:30 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 1/3] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28  9:49   ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-05-28  9:49     ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-05-28 13:12   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 13:12     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 17:26     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 17:26       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 15:56   ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 15:56     ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 17:29     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 17:29       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-29 22:24     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-30 15:37       ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-30 15:37       ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-30 20:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-30 20:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-30 21:11           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-30 22:24             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-05-30 22:24               ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-05-31  5:44               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-31 14:23                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-31 20:02                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-31 20:02                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-31 21:56                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-05-31 21:56                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-05-31 14:23                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-31  5:44               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-30 22:29             ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-31  5:42               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-31  5:42               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-30 22:29             ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-30 21:11           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-29 22:24     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 20:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 20:30 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 2/3] PM: Disable usermode helper before hibernation/suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 13:04   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 13:04     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-27 20:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 20:31 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 3/3] PM: Disable _request_firmware " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 20:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 20:45   ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-27 20:45   ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-27 21:55     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 21:55       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 13:01     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 13:01       ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-29 20:41     ` Rob Landley
2007-05-29 20:41       ` Rob Landley
2007-05-27 20:49   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-27 21:45     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 22:01       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-27 22:01       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-28  7:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28  7:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 16:09         ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 16:09           ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 16:12           ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-28 16:12             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-28 16:43             ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 16:43               ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 16:54               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-28 16:54                 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-28 20:03                 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 20:03                   ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 20:57               ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 20:57                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 22:29                 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 22:29                 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-29 20:09                   ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2007-05-29 20:48                     ` Alan Stern
2007-05-29 20:48                     ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-05-29 20:09                   ` David Brownell
2007-06-04 11:00                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-05 18:45                     ` Alan Stern
2007-06-05 20:26                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-05 20:26                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-05 18:45                     ` Alan Stern
2007-06-04 11:00                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28  8:30       ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-05-28  8:30         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-05-28 11:22         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 11:22           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 21:45     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 21:49     ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-27 21:49     ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-27 22:01       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 22:01       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 22:04       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-27 22:16         ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-27 22:16         ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28  7:43           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28  7:43             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28  8:48             ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28  8:48               ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28  9:06               ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28  9:06                 ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 10:26                 ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 10:26                   ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 12:01                   ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 12:01                     ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 12:07                     ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 12:07                       ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 10:41                 ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 10:41                   ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-29 21:19                 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-29 21:19                 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2007-05-29 22:51               ` Rob Landley
2007-05-29 22:51                 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-30 19:50                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-30 19:50                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 11:15             ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 11:15               ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 11:24               ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 11:24                 ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 11:28                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 11:28                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 11:38                 ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 11:38                   ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 11:45                   ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 11:45                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 11:51                   ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 11:51                     ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 12:26                     ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 12:26                       ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 12:47                       ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 12:47                         ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 13:00                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 13:00                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 13:10                         ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 13:10                           ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 11:28               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 11:28                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 22:04       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-27 20:49   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-28 13:07   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 13:07     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 15:55   ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 15:55     ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 17:43     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 17:43       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 20:51       ` Ray Lee
2007-05-28 20:51         ` Ray Lee
2007-05-28 20:59         ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 20:59           ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-02  0:41 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 0/2] PM: Hibernation and suspend notifiers (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-02  0:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-02  0:43   ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 1/2] PM: Introduce hibernation and suspend notifiers Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-02  0:43   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-03 16:41     ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-03 16:41     ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-03 22:38       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-03 22:59         ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-03 22:59         ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-04  7:56           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-04  7:56           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-03 22:38       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-02  0:44   ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 2/2] PM: Disable usermode helper before hibernation and suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-03 16:42     ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-03 16:42     ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-02  0:44   ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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