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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>, Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ext3fs: umount+sync not enough to guarantee metadata-on-disk
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 12:45:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070607124507.79d8da54.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46682E4E.1070303@redhat.com>

On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:11:58 -0400
Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 06/07/2007 11:41 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >>    mount /var/lib/mythtv -oremount,ro
> >>    sync
> >>    umount /var/lib/mythtv
> > 
> > Did this succeed?  If the application is still truncating that file, the
> > umount should have failed.
> 
> Shouldn't sync should wait for truncate to finish?

I can't think of anything in there at present which would cause that to
happen, and it's not immediately obvious how we _could_ make it happen - we
have an inode which potentially has no dirty pages and which is itself
clean.  The truncate can span multiple journal commits, so forcing a
journal commit in sync() won't necessarily block behind the truncate.

I guess we could ask sync to speculatively take and release every inode's
i_mutex or something.  But even that would involve quite some hoop-jumping
due to those infuriating spinlock-protected list_heads on the superblock.

hmm.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-07 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-07 13:44 ext3fs: umount+sync not enough to guarantee metadata-on-disk Mark Lord
2007-06-07 15:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-07 16:01   ` Mark Lord
2007-06-07 17:09     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2007-06-10 18:27     ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-12 15:15       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2007-06-14 19:01       ` Phillip Susi
2007-06-07 16:11   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-07 19:45     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-06-07 21:38       ` Mark Lord
2007-06-07 22:04         ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-08 14:51           ` Mark Lord
2007-06-09  2:58       ` Mark Lord
2007-06-11 11:14         ` Jan Kara
2007-06-11 22:47           ` Mark Lord
2007-06-12 10:00             ` Jan Kara
2007-06-07 21:43     ` Mark Lord
2007-06-10 18:31       ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-11 11:05       ` Jan Kara
2007-06-11 22:46         ` Mark Lord

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