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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Interesting interaction between lguest and CFS
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:34:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070608093429.GA22699@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070606202314.GH11115@waste.org>


* Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:50:15PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > Matt, could you run this for 1-2 minutes and send us the sched_debug.txt 
> > output?
> 
> http://selenic.com/sched_debug.txt.gz

thanks. It shows the anomaly in action:

  now at 365294215491977 nsecs

  .jiffies               : 91248553
  .next_balance          : 0
  .curr->pid             : 18589
  .clock                 : 125652924079659272
  .prev_clock_raw        : 365201238127457
  .clock_warps           : 9
  .clock_unstable_events : 61896358
  .clock_max_delta       : 3997813

next one is:

  now at 365295219388142 nsecs

  .jiffies               : 91248804
  .next_balance          : 0
  .curr->pid             : 18591
  .clock                 : 125653018059166371
  .prev_clock_raw        : 365295217642619
  .clock_warps           : 9
  .clock_unstable_events : 61896359
  .clock_max_delta       : 92976502936

251 jiffies passed, at 250 Hz that's 1 second - this proves that the 
sample is indeed an accurate once-per-second sample according to the 
timer interrupt. The 'now' timestamp (ktime_get() based) shows 
1003896165 nanosecs passed - this too is showing a precise 1 second 
sample, according to GTOD.

So all the time references we have show that (no surprise here) 1 second 
passed between the two samples. But sched_clock() shows a _large_ jump:

  .clock                 : 125652924079659272
  .clock                 : 125653018059166371

also reflected in .clock_max_delta:

  .clock_max_delta       : 92976502936

that's a 93 seconds jump (!) in a single 1-second sample. We also had a 
single sched-clock-unstable event:

  .clock_unstable_events : 61896358
  .clock_unstable_events : 61896359

could you please try a test-boot with 'notsc' - do the scheduling 
weirdnesses go away? Also, 

There are two reasons why the sched_clock() in -mm could behave like 
that - either the sched-clock-share patches in it are buggy and we do 
not smoothly switch over from sc->unstable == 1 to sc->unstable == 0, or 
the TSC itself is unstable. To test the latter theory, could you run a 1 
minute tsc-dump on your box:

	./tsc-dump > tsc-dump.txt

You can pick tsc-dump up from:

	http://redhat.com/~mingo/time-warp-test/

(please run this on a recent -mm kernel so that we have the same 
ACPI-idle characteristics as on the buggy kernel.)

to test the former theory, could you boot with 'notsc' - do the 
weirdnesses go away? (please create another sched-debug.txt as well)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-08  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-04 17:37 Interesting interaction between lguest and CFS Matt Mackall
2007-06-04 17:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04 18:41   ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-05  7:19     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-05 14:03       ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-05 15:14         ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-06-05 15:41           ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-06-05 19:50             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-06 20:23               ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-08  9:34                 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-06-08 10:18                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04 18:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04 18:42   ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-04 19:12     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04 19:27       ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-04 19:40         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04 19:59           ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-04 20:13             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04 20:20               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04 20:15   ` James Morris
2007-06-04 20:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04 22:58 ` Olof Johansson
2007-06-05  1:02   ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-05  1:24     ` Stephen Rothwell
2007-06-05  2:23     ` Olof Johansson
2007-06-05  0:18 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-05  2:31   ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-05  4:18     ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-05  4:37       ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-05 13:49         ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-05 19:38           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-05 10:43       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-05 19:08         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-06 20:19           ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-05  2:34   ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-05  7:10   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-05  9:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-05 14:06   ` Matt Mackall

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