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From: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
To: "Kok, Auke" <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
	Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
	dave young <hidave.darkstar@gmail.com>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: coding style
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:49:14 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070615194914.GF8151@cvg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4672EC53.50409@intel.com>

[Kok, Auke - Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 12:45:23PM -0700]
| Jan Engelhardt wrote:
| >On Jun 15 2007 12:21, Kok, Auke wrote:
| >>Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
| >>>[Jan Engelhardt - Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 09:10:49PM +0200]
| >>>| On Jun 15 2007 11:03, Randy Dunlap wrote:
| >>>| > > 
| >>>| > > "use tabs for indents and spaces for alignment"
| >>>| > > 
| >>>| > > If that means you need to use two dozen spaces, then so be it.
| >>>| >
| >>>| >I don't think that's what that rule means, but I didn't write it,
| >>>| >so I'm not absolutely sure about it.
| >>>| >
| >>>| >but we know that tab stops are every 8th character, not 4 :)
| >>>| 
| >>>| Hardly.
| >>>| 
| >>>Jan, as I see from CodingStyle:
| >>>
| >>> "Tabs are 8 characters, and thus indentations are also 8 characters."
| >>>
| >>>Actually it would be perfect to get strict rules also for math. and log.
| >>>operators being splitted on several lines:
| >>this doesn't say anything about alignment, which was his point :)
| >
| >Well tabs should _never_ be assumed to be 8, and in this regard, as I 
| >see it, CodingStyle has a bug. Tabs are there so that the user can set 
| >their width according to _their_ taste, simply so that both sides,
| >
| >	from CodingStyle:
| >	Tabs are 8 characters, and thus indentations are also 8
| >	characters.  There are heretic movements that try to make
| >	indentations 4 (or even 2!) characters deep, and that is akin
| >	to trying to define the value of PI to be 3.
| 
| again, this is about *indentation* and not about alignment
| 
| >Linus (did he wrote that part?) and the heretics both can have their fun 
| >without impacting each other. If we wanted to force the user to have 
| >exactly 8 screen blanks, we should use spaces throughout.
| 
| Linus was friendly enough to give us permission to use tabs. He forces tabs 
| for indentation, but leaves it up to everyone else to (1) set their editor 
| to show tabs as 2 or 4 or whatever, and (2) use spaces for alignment.
| 
| the bottom line here is that we encourage everyone to use tabs=8, and allow 
| some degree of freedom for some people to vary this *AND* have decent 
| looking alignment for *EVERYONE* by allowing them to use spaces for 
| alignment.
| 
| Nothing in the codingstyle document confirms or denies this, so I will 
| assume that it is _allowed_ to use spaces for alignment.
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Actually that is exactly what I was expecting to see. Thanks a lot.

| 
| the checkpatch.pl script doesn't disallow spaces for alignment - it is dumb 
| enough to complain about more than 8 spaces for alignment.
| 
| That is and was the whole point... and worth the addition to CodingStyle 
| for me
| 
| 
| Auke
| 


		Cyrill


  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-15 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-14 18:48 coding style Cyrill Gorcunov
2007-06-15  4:51 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-06-15  5:09   ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-15  6:38     ` dave young
2007-06-15  6:47       ` debian developer
2007-06-15  6:54         ` dave young
2007-06-15  9:06         ` Mailing style (was Re: coding style) Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-06-15  9:19           ` debian developer
2007-06-15  9:16       ` coding style Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-15 17:32         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2007-06-15 17:54           ` Chris Friesen
2007-06-15 18:03             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-15 19:10               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-15 19:18                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2007-06-15 19:21                   ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-15 19:29                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2007-06-15 19:31                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-15 19:41                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2007-06-15 20:21                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-15 20:35                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-16 12:30                             ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-15 20:21                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-15 20:39                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-16  6:38                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-16 12:40                               ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-16 15:49                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-19 14:05                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-06-15 19:45                       ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-15 19:49                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov [this message]
2007-06-15 20:28                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-15 22:10                   ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-16 12:59                     ` please keep the CodingStyle text in check (was Re: coding style) Stefan Richter
2007-06-15 18:05             ` coding style Kok, Auke
2007-06-15 18:22               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2007-06-16 13:07                 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-16 14:31                   ` gorcunov
2007-06-16 17:43                     ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-16 18:22                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2007-06-16 14:22         ` Clifford Wolf
2007-06-15  8:56     ` Krzysztof Halasa
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-04-27 18:09 Coding style Goel, Sameer
2017-04-27 18:45 ` Julien Grall
2017-04-27 19:33   ` Goel, Sameer
2017-04-27 19:37     ` Julien Grall
2001-01-23 15:07 Coding Style Jonathan Earle
2001-01-24  3:23 ` john slee
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101192217390.9361-100000@penguin.transmeta .com>
     [not found] ` <3A68E309.2540A5E1@purplecoder.com>
2001-01-20  6:29   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-20 15:32   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-01-21  8:24     ` george anzinger
2001-01-19 17:59 Mark I Manning IV
2001-01-20  0:09 ` David Ford
2001-01-20  1:26   ` John Cavan
2001-01-20  0:46 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-20  5:34   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-21  2:00 ` Matthias Andree
2001-01-22  8:24   ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-22 22:28     ` Mark I Manning IV
2001-01-23  3:56       ` adrian
2001-01-23 20:05 ` Boris Dragovic

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