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From: Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	cebbert@redhat.com, chris@atlee.ca, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	shai@scalex86.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] long freezes on thinkpad t60
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:22:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070619042201.GA13854@localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070618012055.81a7c837.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 01:20:55AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:12:04 +0200 Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> 
> > ---------------------------------------------------->
> > Subject: [patch] x86: fix spin-loop starvation bug
> > From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
> > 
> > Miklos Szeredi reported very long pauses (several seconds, sometimes 
> > more) on his T60 (with a Core2Duo) which he managed to track down to 
> > wait_task_inactive()'s open-coded busy-loop. He observed that an 
> > interrupt on one core tries to acquire the runqueue-lock but does not 
> > succeed in doing so for a very long time - while wait_task_inactive() on 
> > the other core loops waiting for the first core to deschedule a task 
> > (which it wont do while spinning in an interrupt handler).
> > 
> > The problem is: both the spin_lock() code and the wait_task_inactive() 
> > loop uses cpu_relax()/rep_nop(), so in theory the CPU should have 
> > guaranteed MESI-fairness to the two cores - but that didnt happen: one 
> > of the cores was able to monopolize the cacheline that holds the 
> > runqueue lock, for extended periods of time.
> > 
> > This patch changes the spin-loop to assert an atomic op after every REP 
> > NOP instance - this will cause the CPU to express its "MESI interest" in 
> > that cacheline after every REP NOP.
> 
> Kiran, if you're still able to reproduce that zone->lru_lock starvation problem,
> this would be a good one to try...

We tried this approach a week back (speak of co-incidences), and it did not
help the problem.  I'd changed calls to the zone->lru_lock spin_lock
to do spin_trylock in a while loop with cpu_relax instead.  It did not help,
This was on top of 2.6.17 kernels.  But the good news is 2.6.21, as
is does not have the starvation issue -- that is, zone->lru_lock does not
seem to get contended that much under the same workload.

However, this was not on the same hardware I reported zone->lru_lock
contention on (8 socket dual core opteron).  I don't have access to it 
anymore :(

Thanks,
Kiran

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-19  4:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-24 12:04 [BUG] long freezes on thinkpad t60 Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-24 12:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 14:03   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-24 14:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 14:28       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-24 14:42         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 14:44         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 17:09           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-24 21:01             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-25  9:51               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-14 16:04                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-15 21:25                   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-16 10:37                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-17 21:46                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18  6:43                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18  7:24                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18  8:12                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18  8:20                             ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-19  4:22                               ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai [this message]
2007-06-18  8:25                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18  8:31                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18  8:34                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18  9:18                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18  9:38                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18  9:44                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 10:18                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18 12:36                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 13:10                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18 16:34                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-18 17:41                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18 17:48                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-18 18:02                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 18:00                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 18:25                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-20  9:36                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-20 17:34                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21  7:30                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 15:50                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 16:08                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 16:32                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 16:44                                         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-21 17:31                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 18:29                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2007-06-21 18:44                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 19:35                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 20:09                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:14                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 20:30                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:48                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 21:06                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:42                                                       ` [patch] spinlock debug: make looping nicer Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:58                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 21:15                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-22  7:00                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-21 20:36                                                   ` [BUG] long freezes on thinkpad t60 Eric Dumazet
2007-06-21 19:56                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:10                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 20:23                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:12                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-26  8:42                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26 10:56                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-26 17:23                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27  5:23                                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-27  6:04                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27  6:20                                                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-27 19:47                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27 20:10                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-27 20:17                                                           ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-27 22:11                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27 23:30                                                               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-28  0:46                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-28  3:03                                                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-07-02  7:06                                                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-21 20:16                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-22  8:17                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-23 10:36                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-23 16:39                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-25  6:45                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-21 20:18                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:36                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21  7:38                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-21  8:39                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 11:09                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-21 16:01                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-22 10:38                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-24 22:08 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-24 22:13   ` Kok, Auke
2007-05-25  6:58     ` Ingo Molnar

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