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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "Jose R. Santos" <jrs@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@clusterfs.com>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] BIG_BG vs extended META_BG in ext4
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:49:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070702154939.GC4720@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070701094833.47035331@gara>

On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 09:48:33AM -0500, Jose R. Santos wrote:
> Is your concern due to being unable to find contiguous block in the
> case that a bad disk area is in one of the bitmap blocks?  One thing we
> can do is try to search for another set of contiguous blocks and if we
> fail to find one, we can flag the block group and move to an indirect
> block approach to allocating the bitmaps.  At this point, we do lose
> some of the performance benefits of BIG_BG, but we would still be able
> to use the block group.

Yes, my concern is what we might need to do if for some reason e2fsck
needs to reallocate the bitmap blocks.  I don't think an indirect
block scheme is the right approach, though; we're adding a lot of
complexity for a case that probably wouldn't be used but very, very
rarely.

My proposal (as we discsused) in the call, is to implement BIG_BG as
meaning the following:

	1) Implementations must understand and use the s_desc_size
	superblock field to determine whether block group descriptors
	are the old 32 bytes or the newer 64 bytes format.  
	
	2) Implementations must support the newer ext4_group_desc
	format in particular to support bg_free_blocks_count_hi and
	bg_free_inodes_count_hi

	3) Implementations will relax constraints on where the
	superblock, bitmaps, and inode tables for a particular block
	group will be stored.

So with that, we can experiment with what size block groups really
make sense, versus using the extended metablockgroup idea, or possibly
doing both.

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-02 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-29 22:09 [RFC] BIG_BG vs extended META_BG in ext4 Jose R. Santos
2007-06-30  5:51 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-06-30 14:24   ` Mingming Cao
2007-07-01  4:39   ` Jose R. Santos
2007-07-01 12:30     ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-01 14:48       ` Jose R. Santos
2007-07-02 15:49         ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2007-07-02 14:12           ` Mingming Cao
2007-07-05  6:56             ` Valerie Henson
     [not found] ` <D5D3223C-4EB0-413B-A81A-05F6DDC0FEEB@bull.net>
2007-07-01  4:40   ` Jose R. Santos
2007-07-01 16:31     ` Andreas Dilger
2007-07-02 14:39       ` Jose R. Santos
2007-07-03 17:55         ` Andreas Dilger

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