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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	nfsv4@linux-nfs.org
Subject: Re: [EXT4 set 4][PATCH 1/5] i_version:64 bit inode version
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:51:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070706135156.GD10812@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070703233200.GL6578@schatzie.adilger.int>

On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 05:32:00PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Jul 03, 2007  18:15 -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > How will nfsd tell whether it can really on a given filesystem's
> > i_version, or whether it should fall back on ctime?
> 
> Good question.

Well, we don't need anything particularly complicated--just a one-bit
flag on the superblock would be enough.

> > So what's the motivation for the "noversion" mount option?
> 
> Lustre needs to be able to control the version number directly (version
> number needs to be ordered between all inodes, is set by Lustre to be a
> transaction number).  Instead of trying to incorporate this unused code
> into ext4 we just turn off the ext4 version code and let Lustre control
> this directly.  It may even be that NFSv4 will need to control the version
> numbers itself...

I can't think of any reason we would need to in the near future, but
maybe I'm insufficiently creative.

The use of a mount option means the change attribute could be
inconsistent across mounts.  If we really need this, wouldn't it make
more sense for it to be a persistent feature of the filesystem, set at
mkfs time?

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-06 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-01  7:37 [EXT4 set 4][PATCH 1/5] i_version:64 bit inode version Mingming Cao
2007-07-02 14:58 ` Mingming Cao
2007-07-03 14:24   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-07-03 21:56     ` Andreas Dilger
2007-07-03 22:15   ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-07-03 23:32     ` Andreas Dilger
2007-07-03 23:32       ` Andreas Dilger
2007-07-06 13:51       ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2007-07-06 22:53         ` Andreas Dilger
2007-07-09 21:16           ` Mingming Cao
2007-07-10 23:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-10 22:09   ` Mingming Cao
2007-07-10 22:09     ` Mingming Cao
2007-07-11  1:22     ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-11  0:19       ` Mingming Cao
2007-07-11  0:19         ` Mingming Cao
2007-07-11  4:22         ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-11  2:27           ` Mingming Cao
2007-07-11 16:57         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-07-11  3:21       ` Neil Brown
2007-07-11  2:09         ` Mingming Cao
2007-07-11  5:17           ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-11  5:17             ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-11  3:18             ` Mingming Cao
2007-07-11  6:35               ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-11  3:34         ` Trond Myklebust
2007-07-11  3:34           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-07-11 11:41           ` Andreas Dilger
2007-07-11 11:41             ` Andreas Dilger
2007-07-11  5:05         ` Neil Brown
2007-07-11  5:22           ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-11  5:22             ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-11 14:28           ` Dave Kleikamp
2007-07-11 20:04             ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-07-11 20:04               ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-07-12  4:56               ` Andreas Dilger
2007-07-11 17:26         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-07-11 17:26           ` J. Bruce Fields

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