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From: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 10/10] Scheduler profiling - Use immediate values
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 13:55:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070707175503.GI24475@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070707170157.GH3492@stusta.de>

Hi, Adrian -

On Sat, Jul 07, 2007 at 07:01:57PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> [...]
> > Things are not so simple.  One might not know that one has a
> > performance problem until one tries some analysis tools.  Rebooting
> > into different kernels just to investigate does not work generally [...]
> 
> I'm not getting this:
>
> You'll only start looking into an analysis tool if you have a
> performance problem, IOW if you are not satisfied with the
> performance.

There may be people whose jobs entail continually suspecting
performance problems.  Or one may run instrumentation code on a
long-term basis specifically to locate performance spikes.

> And the debug code will not have been tested on this machine no matter 
> whether it's enabled through a compile option or at runtime.

There is a big difference in favour of the former.  The additional
instrumentation code may be small enough to inspect carefully.  The
rest of the kernel would be unaffected.

> [...]  If you might be able to get a big part of tracing and other
> debug code enabled with a performance penalty of a few percent of
> _kernel_ performance, then you might get much debugging aid without
> any effective impact on application performance.

Agreed.


- FChE

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-07 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-03 16:40 [patch 00/10] Immediate Values Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 01/10] Immediate values - Global modules list and module mutex Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 02/10] Immediate Value - Architecture Independent Code Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 03/10] Immediate Values - Non Optimized Architectures Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 04/10] Immediate Value - Add kconfig menus Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 05/10] Immediate Values - kprobe header fix Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 06/10] Immediate Value - i386 Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 18:45   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 19:16     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 20:18       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 20:37         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-03 21:30           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 23:10           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-03 20:43         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 21:30           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 07/10] Immediate Value - PowerPC Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 08/10] Immediate Value - Documentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 09/10] F00F bug fixup for i386 - use immediate values Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-04 20:43   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 10/10] Scheduler profiling - Use " Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 18:11   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-03 18:57     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-04 14:23       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-04 20:31       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-05 20:21       ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-05 20:29         ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-05 20:41           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 11:44         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-06 17:50           ` Li, Tong N
2007-07-06 20:03             ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-06 20:57               ` Li, Tong N
2007-07-06 21:03                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07  1:50             ` [patch 10/10] *Tests* " Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07  6:08               ` Li, Tong N
2007-07-11  5:02                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 22:14           ` [patch 10/10] " Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-06 23:28             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-06 23:38               ` Dave Jones
2007-07-07  0:10                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 15:45                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-07-07 17:01                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 17:20                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-07-07 17:59                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 17:55                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler [this message]
2007-07-06 23:43               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07  2:25                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07  2:35                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07  4:03                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07  5:02                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-07-04 20:35   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-04 22:41     ` Andi Kleen
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     [not found]     ` <8DkTC-5Vy-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-07-05 15:23       ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-05 15:46         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 21:08           ` Adrian Bunk

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