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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@vger.kernel.org,
	suresh.b.siddha@intel.com, corey.d.gough@intel.com,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 09/10] Remove the SLOB allocator for 2.6.23
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 09:51:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070708075119.GA16631@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070708035018.074510057@sgi.com>


(added Matt to the Cc: list)

* Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:

> Maintenance of slab allocators becomes a problem as new features for 
> allocators are developed. The SLOB allocator in particular has been 
> lagging behind in many ways in the past:
> 
> - Had no support for SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU for years (but no one 
>   noticed)
> 
> - Still has no support for slab reclaim counters. This may currently 
>   not be necessary if one would restrict the supported configurations 
>   for functionality relying on these. But even that has not been done.
> 
> The only current advantage over SLUB in terms of memory savings is 
> through SLOBs kmalloc layout that is not power of two based like SLAB 
> and SLUB which allows to eliminate some memory waste.
> 
> Through that SLOB has still a slight memory advantage over SLUB of 
> ~350k in for a standard server configuration. It is likely that the 
> savings are is smaller for real embedded configurations that have less 
> functionality.

actually, one real advantage of the SLOB is that it is a minimal, really 
simple allocator. Its text and data size is so small as well.

here's the size comparison:

   text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
  10788     837      16   11641    2d79 mm/slab.o
   6205    4207     124   10536    2928 mm/slub.o
   1640      44       4    1688     698 mm/slob.o

slab/slub have roughly the same footprint, but slob is 10% of that size. 
Would be a waste to throw this away.

A year ago the -rt kernel defaulted to the SLOB for a few releases, and 
barring some initial scalability issues (which were solved in -rt) it 
worked pretty well on generic PCs, so i dont buy the 'it doesnt work' 
argument either.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-08  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-08  3:49 [patch 00/10] [RFC] SLUB patches for more functionality, performance and maintenance Christoph Lameter
2007-07-08  3:49 ` [patch 01/10] SLUB: Direct pass through of page size or higher kmalloc requests Christoph Lameter
2007-07-08  3:49 ` [patch 02/10] SLUB: Avoid page struct cacheline bouncing due to remote frees to cpu slab Christoph Lameter
2007-07-08  3:49 ` [patch 03/10] SLUB: Do not use page->mapping Christoph Lameter
2007-07-08  3:49 ` [patch 04/10] SLUB: Move page->offset to kmem_cache_cpu->offset Christoph Lameter
2007-07-08  3:49 ` [patch 05/10] SLUB: Avoid touching page struct when freeing to per cpu slab Christoph Lameter
2007-07-08  3:49 ` [patch 06/10] SLUB: Place kmem_cache_cpu structures in a NUMA aware way Christoph Lameter
2007-07-08  3:49 ` [patch 07/10] SLUB: Optimize cacheline use for zeroing Christoph Lameter
2007-07-08  3:50 ` [patch 08/10] SLUB: Single atomic instruction alloc/free using cmpxchg Christoph Lameter
2007-07-08  3:50 ` [patch 09/10] Remove the SLOB allocator for 2.6.23 Christoph Lameter
2007-07-08  7:51   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-07-08  9:43     ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-08  9:54       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 10:23         ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-08 10:42           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 18:02     ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-09  2:57       ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 11:04         ` Pekka Enberg
2007-07-09 11:16           ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 12:47             ` Pekka Enberg
2007-07-09 13:46             ` Pekka J Enberg
2007-07-09 16:08           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 16:08             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10  8:17             ` Pekka J Enberg
2007-07-10  8:17               ` Pekka J Enberg
2007-07-10  8:27               ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10  8:27                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10  9:31                 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-07-10  9:31                   ` Pekka Enberg
2007-07-10 10:09                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10 10:09                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10 12:02                   ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-10 12:02                     ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-10 12:57                     ` Pekka J Enberg
2007-07-10 12:57                       ` Pekka J Enberg
2007-07-10 22:12                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10 22:40                       ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-10 22:40                         ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-10 22:50                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10 22:50                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 16:06         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 16:51           ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-09 17:26             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 18:00               ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-10  1:43               ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10  1:56                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10  2:02                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10  2:11                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10  7:09                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10 22:09                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10 23:12                           ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-10  8:32                       ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-10  9:01                         ` Håvard Skinnemoen
2007-07-10  9:11                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10  9:21                             ` Håvard Skinnemoen
2007-07-11  1:37                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-11  2:06                           ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-11 18:06                             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-11 18:25                               ` Pekka J Enberg
2007-07-11 18:33                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-11 18:36                                   ` Pekka J Enberg
2007-07-12  0:33                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 23:09             ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-10  1:41           ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10  1:51             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10  1:58               ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10  6:22                 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-10  7:03                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10  2:32               ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-09 21:57       ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-09 12:31     ` Matthieu CASTET
2007-07-09 16:00     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 20:52   ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-08  3:50 ` [patch 10/10] Remove slab in 2.6.24 Christoph Lameter
2007-07-08  4:37 ` [patch 00/10] [RFC] SLUB patches for more functionality, performance and maintenance David Miller
2007-07-09 15:45   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 19:43     ` David Miller
2007-07-09 21:21       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-08 11:20 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-09 15:50   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 15:50     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 15:59     ` Martin Bligh
2007-07-09 15:59       ` Martin Bligh
2007-07-09 18:11       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 18:11         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 21:00         ` Martin Bligh
2007-07-09 21:00           ` Martin Bligh
2007-07-09 21:44           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-09 21:44             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-09 21:55             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 21:55               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 22:58               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-09 22:58                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-09 23:08                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-09 23:08                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10  5:16                   ` [PATCH] x86_64 - Use non locked version for local_cmpxchg() Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-10  5:16                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-10 20:46                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10 20:46                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10  0:55                 ` [patch 00/10] [RFC] SLUB patches for more functionality, performance and maintenance Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10  0:55                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10  8:27                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-10  8:27                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-10 18:38                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10 18:38                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-10 20:59                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-10 20:59                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-13 22:18                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-13 22:18                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-13 22:28                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-13 22:28                       ` Christoph Lameter

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