From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>,
Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm] Freezer: Handle uninterruptible tasks
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 12:09:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070708120933.GA3866@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707080108.17371.rjw@sisk.pl>
Hi!
> > And then you will face the problem of a user task doing I/O during
> > hibernate after the atomic snapshot has been made.
>
> I don't think that this is possible in normal conditions. It would be possible
> if, for example, the task were waiting for an unavailable resource and that
> resource became available after the hibernation image had been created.
> In that case, however, to do any damage, the task would have to cause some
> filesystem-related data to be flushed in the same syscall (ie. before returning
> to user space).
I agree that it is relatively unlikely to trigger (if you avoid
freezing the tasks that were uninterruptible for long), but it will
trigger in error cases etc.
> Such situations may be prevented by a mechanizm detecting if any uniterruptible
> and freezing task has been woken up after creating the image and aborting the
> hibernation in that cases. For this purpose, we only need to add an
> appropriate condition to try_to_wake_up() and make it start to trigger after,
> for example, enabling the nonboot CPUs.
I don't know how to do that mechanism... but if we knew where to trap
filesystem writes, we could simply freeze at that point, and at that
point only, no?
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-08 12:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-06 8:12 [RFC][PATCH -mm] Freezer: Handle uninterruptible tasks Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-06 15:01 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-07 23:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-08 12:09 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-07-08 13:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-08 13:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 4:21 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 4:21 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 14:45 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-09 14:45 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-09 15:36 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 15:36 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-08 12:09 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-08 18:37 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-08 18:37 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-07 23:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-06 15:01 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-07 7:50 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-07 7:50 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-07 9:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-07 11:31 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-07 11:31 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-07 20:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-07 20:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-07 9:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-06 8:12 Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-06 20:26 Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-06 22:38 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-06 23:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-07 23:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-06 22:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-06 23:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
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