From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@kvack.org>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: rtc-linux@googlegroups.com, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, devel@laptop.org
Subject: Re: Hibernate after alarm wakes from STR
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:31:21 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070708223121.GB4964@dmt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707081315.40560.david-b@pacbell.net>
On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 01:15:40PM -0700, David Brownell wrote:
> On Sunday 08 July 2007, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 12:17 -0700, David Brownell wrote:
> > >
> > > I think so ... although that's unfortunately another difference
> > > between the legacy x86-mostly code and the newer RTC framework.
> >
> > (sorry for hijacking the thread)
>
> I changed $SUBJECT ...
>
>
> > Is this the interface should stuff like HAL use to do:
> >
> > * Suspend for 10 minutes
> > * auto wakeup and then hibernate...
>
> That is, "Suspend-to-RAM" or "standby"? Yes, assuming that works on
> this particular system. Arguably that would be a direction for
> cpuidle to think about too, but I think alarm-driven wakeup is more
> ready-to-use at this point.
>
>
> > I figure we can do a suspend setting the rtc using the ioctls and then
> > we wakeup, and HAL has to know that we woke up from the alarm rather
> > than from a lid event or keypress.
On OLPC hibernate would be suspend-to-disk, but we haven't done any
testing with that yet. It would be necessary to check for available disk
space before attempting it (or reserving space perhaps?).
> ... although I don't know whether that particular distinction is
> made to userspace right now. ACPI provides a bit like that, and
> at least a few other systems can do something analagous.
Yes, we can poke at registers to find that out.
> That is, we may want to provide a bit more information about the
> specific event which triggered wakeup. I don't believe there is
> such an interface, in general.
What would be a nice interface? Perhaps an additional file under
/sys/devices/.../power/wakeup_fired or something (only for devices with
can_wakeup set).
> Plus, the notion seems kind of racey to me. (If you press a key
> right while the wakealarm fires, you don't want hibernation..)
Then you check if the any key or other wakeup event has happened other
than RTC... I don't see any problem with that.
> > Is this something we can do (or should do) for OLPC and general ACPI?
>
> I'd certainly rather see laptops doing that than what they do now:
> running the battery out, and needing filesystem recovery!!
Yep.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-08 22:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-30 23:57 Power Mangement Interfaces Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31 0:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-31 0:21 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-31 4:33 ` [linux-pm] " Gopi P.M.
2007-03-31 15:20 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31 16:12 ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 15:16 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02 7:38 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2007-03-31 16:57 ` David Brownell
2007-04-04 16:15 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-04 18:44 ` David Brownell
2007-04-04 21:49 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 5:05 ` David Brownell
2007-04-05 8:02 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-05 8:32 ` Zhang Rui
2007-03-31 16:52 ` David Brownell
2007-03-31 18:16 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-03-31 18:57 ` David Brownell
2007-04-01 1:01 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-01 3:01 ` David Brownell
2007-04-01 16:56 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-01 16:56 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02 0:28 ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 0:28 ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 16:55 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02 16:55 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-04-02 17:53 ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 17:53 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 3:46 ` rtc-cmos not supporting RTC_AIE? Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 3:46 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 5:26 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 5:26 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 19:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 19:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 19:17 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 19:31 ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-08 20:15 ` Hibernate after alarm wakes from STR David Brownell
2007-07-08 20:15 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 22:31 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2007-07-09 2:44 ` David Brownell
2007-07-09 8:34 ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-09 8:34 ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-09 15:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-09 16:26 ` David Brownell
2007-07-10 2:45 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-10 16:51 ` David Brownell
2007-07-10 16:51 ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2007-07-10 22:16 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-10 22:16 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 0:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11 0:45 ` [linux-pm] " Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11 0:53 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 0:53 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 1:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11 1:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 1:59 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11 3:14 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 10:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 10:09 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 10:14 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 10:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 10:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 10:14 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 3:14 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 1:59 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11 1:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 1:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-11 16:04 ` David Brownell
2007-07-11 16:04 ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2007-07-11 22:48 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 22:48 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-10 2:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-09 16:26 ` David Brownell
2007-07-09 15:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-09 2:44 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 22:31 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 19:31 ` rtc-cmos not supporting RTC_AIE? Richard Hughes
2007-07-08 19:17 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 3:49 ` [PATCH] rtc-cmos: use cmos_rtc_board_info to determine wake_on callback Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 3:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 5:06 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 5:06 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 3:55 ` [PATCH] OLPC rtc-cmos support Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 5:13 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 5:13 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 18:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 19:10 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 19:10 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 20:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 20:47 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 20:47 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 20:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 18:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 3:55 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-06-19 17:00 ` Power Mangement Interfaces Marcelo Tosatti
2007-06-19 19:17 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-19 19:17 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-19 19:41 ` Woodruff, Richard
2007-06-21 1:30 ` David Brownell
2007-07-08 22:10 ` [PATCH] add powerbutton and lid platform devices Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-08 22:10 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-07-09 15:05 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-07-09 16:30 ` David Brownell
2007-07-09 16:30 ` David Brownell
2007-07-09 16:36 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-07-09 16:36 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-07-16 8:51 ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-16 8:51 ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-16 17:11 ` C. Scott Ananian
2007-07-16 17:11 ` C. Scott Ananian
2007-07-09 15:05 ` Jordan Crouse
2007-06-21 1:30 ` Power Mangement Interfaces David Brownell
2007-06-19 17:00 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2007-04-02 10:23 ` Zhang Rui
2007-04-02 18:24 ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 18:24 ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 19:40 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-04-02 21:31 ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 21:31 ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 19:40 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-04-05 8:20 ` Zhang Rui
2007-04-05 8:20 ` Zhang Rui
2007-04-01 3:01 ` David Brownell
2007-04-02 10:07 ` Zhang Rui
2007-03-31 19:14 ` Jim Gettys
2007-04-02 9:36 ` Zhang Rui
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