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From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: "Li Yang-r58472" <LeoLi@freescale.com>
Cc: "Gerrit Huizenga" <gh@us.ibm.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Kunai, Takashi" <kunai@linux-foundation.jp>,
	holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	lf_kernel_messages@linux-foundation.org, mtk-manpages@gmx.net,
	jack@suse.cz, randy.dunlap@oracle.com, gregkh@suse.de,
	pavel@ucw.cz, tim.bird@am.sony.com, arjan@infradead.org,
	sam@ravnborg.org, jengelh@computergmbh.de, joe@perches.com,
	auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com, hansendc@us.ibm.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
	kenistoj@us.ibm.com, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Documentation of kernel messages (Summary)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:35:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707121335.55817.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <989B956029373F45A0B8AF0297081890F05F2F@zch01exm26.fsl.freescale.net>

On Thursday 12 July 2007 9:53:54 am Li Yang-r58472 wrote:
> > Fielding patches and questions sounds like plenty to me...)
>
> I do think the documentation translation is very necessary even when
> there is a language maintainer, especially for the policy documents as
> HOWTO, codestyle , and etc.  The contributors should go through these
> policies and check their code for compliance before going to the
> language maintainer for help, or there will be too much for the language
> maintainer to translate.  The language maintainer doesn't need to
> translate all the documents himself, but he can help to coordinate the
> translation effort and help to make it update to date.

It would help if all the policy documents got grouped into a single 
Documentation/development directory so we could separate "policy documents in 
each language would be nice" from "that document about the amiga zorro bus 
really needs to be kept up-to-date in Navajo and that should be in the kernel 
tarball please".

Lemme see, which ones are we talking about?  The candidates are:
  applying-patches.txt
  BUG-HUNTING
  Changes
  CodingStyle
  debugging-modules.txt
  feature-removal-schedule.txt
  HOWTO
  kernel-docs.txt
  language-maintainers.txt
  ManagementStyle
  oops-tracing.txt
  SecurityBugs
  sparse.txt
  stable_api_nonsense.txt
  stable_kernel_rules.txt
  SubmitChecklist
  SubmittingDrivers
  SubmittingPatches
  volatile-considered-harmful.txt

That's everything I noticed in the top level directory that's a good candidate 
to be grouped into a "development" subdirectory.  Did I miss anything?

I note that Changes is a bit stale in places (16 bit assembly?), 
feature-removal-schedule.txt changes often but is good to know, 
kernel-docs.txt might be useless to translate considering it's mostly links 
to english documentation, language-maintainers.txt is assuming my patch from 
earlier today gets accepted...

I can submit a patch grouping all that stuff together into a subdirectory if 
it would help...

> If we do need a contact person, I can do it.  However I don't think
> there will be much translation work to do here.  As I stated before,
> most Chinese programmers are more or less capable of read/write
> technical English.  The difficult part is to let them know the benefit
> of merging code in kernel and teach them how to do it.  That's why the
> policy documents in native language will be very useful.

Does the above look like a good list?  There are more that need to be written, 
but that's what I saw in Documentation...

Rob

P.S.  Dear kmail/postfix developers: having a transient DNS lookup failure on 
one address in a long cc: list is _NOT_ a reason to have the message stay in 
the kmail outbox.  It should go into the postfix send queue and be retried 
from there.  Right now, if I tell it to resend, how do I know who it has and 
hasn't been successfully distributed to on the first attempt?  I've gotten 
dinged for trimming the cc: list before, but now I'm about to send out 
duplicates.  Wheee...
-- 
"One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code."
  - Ken Thompson.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-12 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-13 15:06 [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages holzheu
2007-06-13 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2007-06-13 17:11   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-13 17:42   ` holzheu
2007-06-13 16:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-06-13 18:09   ` Rob Landley
2007-06-13 18:11   ` holzheu
2007-06-14  8:47     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-06-15  8:49   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-13 17:16 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-06-13 17:46   ` holzheu
2007-06-13 17:51 ` Greg KH
2007-06-13 18:18   ` holzheu
2007-06-13 18:32     ` Greg KH
2007-06-13 18:49       ` Dave Hansen
2007-06-13 18:49       ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-14  8:17       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-06-13 19:04     ` Joe Perches
2007-06-14  2:54       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-06-14  7:05         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-15  8:51       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-13 18:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-14  8:31   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-06-14  9:41   ` Jan Kara
2007-06-14 10:38     ` holzheu
2007-06-14 11:47       ` holzheu
2007-06-14 12:26         ` Jan Kara
2007-06-14 15:22           ` holzheu
2007-06-15 18:42       ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 18:51         ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-15 19:27           ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 20:01           ` Greg KH
2007-06-18 12:55         ` holzheu
2007-06-18 13:12           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-18 13:33             ` Jan Kara
2007-06-18 13:53             ` holzheu
2007-06-19  1:36               ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19  8:51                 ` holzheu
2007-06-19 19:24                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19 11:31                 ` holzheu
2007-06-19  5:41           ` [Lf_kernel_messages] " Kunai, Takashi
2007-06-18 13:11         ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-18 15:35           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-19  0:13         ` Tim Bird
2007-06-19  3:52           ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 12:40     ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-18 13:42       ` holzheu
2007-06-18 14:02         ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 13:48   ` Documentation of kernel messages (Summary) Michael Holzheu
2007-06-25 15:44     ` Rob Landley
2007-06-25 18:05       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-27 15:11       ` Michael Holzheu
2007-07-09  5:15         ` Kunai, Takashi
2007-07-09  5:36           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-09 16:48             ` Rob Landley
2007-07-09 17:18               ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-07-10 16:12                 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 12:15                   ` Michael Holzheu
2007-07-11 14:26                   ` Li Yang
2007-07-11 18:13                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 21:32                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-13 10:53                         ` Alan Cox
2007-07-13 12:49                           ` Li Yang
2007-07-13 13:43                             ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-13 13:25                           ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-13 21:10                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-13 18:05                           ` Rob Landley
2007-07-14  3:54                             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-15  1:56                               ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 16:28                                 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-16 19:53                                   ` Rob Landley
2007-08-03 18:11                                     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-03 19:32                                       ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04  3:50                                         ` Greg KH
2007-08-04 19:02                                           ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04  3:52                                         ` Greg KH
2007-08-04 18:54                                           ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04 20:04                                             ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-06 15:50                                               ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 21:53                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-12 16:56                         ` Rob Landley
2007-07-12 13:53                       ` Li Yang-r58472
2007-07-12 16:05                         ` [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer Rob Landley
2007-07-12 19:52                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-07-12 20:02                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-13  7:42                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-07-13 16:06                             ` Rob Landley
2007-07-13 12:43                           ` Li Yang
2007-07-13 17:52                             ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 14:42                               ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 18:12                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-15 18:50                                   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-15 19:11                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-15 20:25                                       ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-16  4:40                                     ` Ganesan Rajagopal
2007-07-16 21:43                                       ` Alan Cox
2007-07-17  7:19                                         ` Ganesan Rajagopal
2007-07-15 18:53                                   ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 20:25                                   ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16  9:17                                   ` Dr. Keith G. Bowden
2007-07-16  2:49                                 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-16  3:03                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 16:24                                   ` Li Yang
2007-07-17 21:06                                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-12 16:41                         ` Documentation of kernel messages (Summary) Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-12 17:35                         ` Rob Landley [this message]
2007-07-13  2:54                           ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-13 17:12                             ` Rob Landley
2007-07-14  1:46                               ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-15  2:12                                 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 16:46                                   ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-17 16:06                                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 23:30                                       ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-13 11:54                           ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 20:30                             ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-09 18:33               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-10 16:25                 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-10 18:54                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-10 19:53                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17  0:31                   ` Tim Bird
2007-07-17  1:17                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 16:42                       ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 16:29                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-10  7:59               ` Li Yang-r58472
2007-07-10  6:38             ` Dave Young
2007-07-09  7:01           ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 22:59             ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-10  6:15               ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 18:10       ` [Lf_kernel_messages] " Theodore Tso
2007-07-09 22:12         ` Alan Cox
2007-07-10 16:50         ` Rob Landley
2007-06-13 18:23 ` [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages David Miller
2007-06-13 18:27   ` holzheu

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