From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: "Li Yang-r58472" <LeoLi@freescale.com>
Cc: "Gerrit Huizenga" <gh@us.ibm.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Kunai, Takashi" <kunai@linux-foundation.jp>,
holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
lf_kernel_messages@linux-foundation.org, mtk-manpages@gmx.net,
jack@suse.cz, randy.dunlap@oracle.com, gregkh@suse.de,
pavel@ucw.cz, tim.bird@am.sony.com, arjan@infradead.org,
sam@ravnborg.org, jengelh@computergmbh.de, joe@perches.com,
auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com, hansendc@us.ibm.com,
davem@davemloft.net, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
kenistoj@us.ibm.com, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Documentation of kernel messages (Summary)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:35:54 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707121335.55817.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <989B956029373F45A0B8AF0297081890F05F2F@zch01exm26.fsl.freescale.net>
On Thursday 12 July 2007 9:53:54 am Li Yang-r58472 wrote:
> > Fielding patches and questions sounds like plenty to me...)
>
> I do think the documentation translation is very necessary even when
> there is a language maintainer, especially for the policy documents as
> HOWTO, codestyle , and etc. The contributors should go through these
> policies and check their code for compliance before going to the
> language maintainer for help, or there will be too much for the language
> maintainer to translate. The language maintainer doesn't need to
> translate all the documents himself, but he can help to coordinate the
> translation effort and help to make it update to date.
It would help if all the policy documents got grouped into a single
Documentation/development directory so we could separate "policy documents in
each language would be nice" from "that document about the amiga zorro bus
really needs to be kept up-to-date in Navajo and that should be in the kernel
tarball please".
Lemme see, which ones are we talking about? The candidates are:
applying-patches.txt
BUG-HUNTING
Changes
CodingStyle
debugging-modules.txt
feature-removal-schedule.txt
HOWTO
kernel-docs.txt
language-maintainers.txt
ManagementStyle
oops-tracing.txt
SecurityBugs
sparse.txt
stable_api_nonsense.txt
stable_kernel_rules.txt
SubmitChecklist
SubmittingDrivers
SubmittingPatches
volatile-considered-harmful.txt
That's everything I noticed in the top level directory that's a good candidate
to be grouped into a "development" subdirectory. Did I miss anything?
I note that Changes is a bit stale in places (16 bit assembly?),
feature-removal-schedule.txt changes often but is good to know,
kernel-docs.txt might be useless to translate considering it's mostly links
to english documentation, language-maintainers.txt is assuming my patch from
earlier today gets accepted...
I can submit a patch grouping all that stuff together into a subdirectory if
it would help...
> If we do need a contact person, I can do it. However I don't think
> there will be much translation work to do here. As I stated before,
> most Chinese programmers are more or less capable of read/write
> technical English. The difficult part is to let them know the benefit
> of merging code in kernel and teach them how to do it. That's why the
> policy documents in native language will be very useful.
Does the above look like a good list? There are more that need to be written,
but that's what I saw in Documentation...
Rob
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the kmail outbox. It should go into the postfix send queue and be retried
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-12 17:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-13 15:06 [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages holzheu
2007-06-13 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2007-06-13 17:11 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-13 17:42 ` holzheu
2007-06-13 16:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-06-13 18:09 ` Rob Landley
2007-06-13 18:11 ` holzheu
2007-06-14 8:47 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-06-15 8:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-13 17:16 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-06-13 17:46 ` holzheu
2007-06-13 17:51 ` Greg KH
2007-06-13 18:18 ` holzheu
2007-06-13 18:32 ` Greg KH
2007-06-13 18:49 ` Dave Hansen
2007-06-13 18:49 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-14 8:17 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-06-13 19:04 ` Joe Perches
2007-06-14 2:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-06-14 7:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-15 8:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-13 18:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-14 8:31 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-06-14 9:41 ` Jan Kara
2007-06-14 10:38 ` holzheu
2007-06-14 11:47 ` holzheu
2007-06-14 12:26 ` Jan Kara
2007-06-14 15:22 ` holzheu
2007-06-15 18:42 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 18:51 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-15 19:27 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 20:01 ` Greg KH
2007-06-18 12:55 ` holzheu
2007-06-18 13:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-18 13:33 ` Jan Kara
2007-06-18 13:53 ` holzheu
2007-06-19 1:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19 8:51 ` holzheu
2007-06-19 19:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19 11:31 ` holzheu
2007-06-19 5:41 ` [Lf_kernel_messages] " Kunai, Takashi
2007-06-18 13:11 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-18 15:35 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-19 0:13 ` Tim Bird
2007-06-19 3:52 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 12:40 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-18 13:42 ` holzheu
2007-06-18 14:02 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 13:48 ` Documentation of kernel messages (Summary) Michael Holzheu
2007-06-25 15:44 ` Rob Landley
2007-06-25 18:05 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-27 15:11 ` Michael Holzheu
2007-07-09 5:15 ` Kunai, Takashi
2007-07-09 5:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-09 16:48 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-09 17:18 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-07-10 16:12 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 12:15 ` Michael Holzheu
2007-07-11 14:26 ` Li Yang
2007-07-11 18:13 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 21:32 ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-13 10:53 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-13 12:49 ` Li Yang
2007-07-13 13:43 ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-13 13:25 ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-13 21:10 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-13 18:05 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-14 3:54 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-15 1:56 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 16:28 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-16 19:53 ` Rob Landley
2007-08-03 18:11 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-03 19:32 ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04 3:50 ` Greg KH
2007-08-04 19:02 ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04 3:52 ` Greg KH
2007-08-04 18:54 ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04 20:04 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-06 15:50 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 21:53 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-12 16:56 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-12 13:53 ` Li Yang-r58472
2007-07-12 16:05 ` [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer Rob Landley
2007-07-12 19:52 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-07-12 20:02 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-13 7:42 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-07-13 16:06 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-13 12:43 ` Li Yang
2007-07-13 17:52 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 14:42 ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 18:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-15 18:50 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-15 19:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-15 20:25 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-16 4:40 ` Ganesan Rajagopal
2007-07-16 21:43 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-17 7:19 ` Ganesan Rajagopal
2007-07-15 18:53 ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 20:25 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 9:17 ` Dr. Keith G. Bowden
2007-07-16 2:49 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-16 3:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 16:24 ` Li Yang
2007-07-17 21:06 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-12 16:41 ` Documentation of kernel messages (Summary) Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-12 17:35 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2007-07-13 2:54 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-13 17:12 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-14 1:46 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-15 2:12 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 16:46 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-17 16:06 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 23:30 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-13 11:54 ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 20:30 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-09 18:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-10 16:25 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-10 18:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-10 19:53 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 0:31 ` Tim Bird
2007-07-17 1:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 16:42 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 16:29 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-10 7:59 ` Li Yang-r58472
2007-07-10 6:38 ` Dave Young
2007-07-09 7:01 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 22:59 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-10 6:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 18:10 ` [Lf_kernel_messages] " Theodore Tso
2007-07-09 22:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-10 16:50 ` Rob Landley
2007-06-13 18:23 ` [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages David Miller
2007-06-13 18:27 ` holzheu
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