From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
<hmh-N3TV7GIv+o9fyO9Q7EP/yw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: ibm-acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
Richard Hughes
<hughsient-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
dmitry.torokhov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
lenb-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
linux-acpi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: make the input event mode the default
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:49:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070715224914.GB7164@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070715220801.GK19066-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 07:08:01PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > Right now, the hotkey functionality of the driver is not terribly useful
> > without (bleeding-edge) userspace. This is inconsistent with the
> > majority of input drivers which do something broadly sane in that
> > situation.
>
> It works better with non-bleeding-edge userspace the way I did it, as far as
> I know. So I'll need some explanations about what I should be doing
> differently.
>
> Here's my view on things:
>
> Non-bleeding-edge userspace screws up volume control if I send events. And
> so does bleeding-edge userspace for that matter, AFAIK.
No, it doesn't. It interacts in a way that you may not consider to be
ideal - the vast majority of our users appear to prefer it to the
previous behaviour, so it's better than nothing.
> Non-bleeding-edge userspace screws up brightness control if I send events.
No. Nothing will screw up if you send brightness events.
> Bleeding-edge userspace needs to be told it exists, anyway, to make proper
> use of it, and can be told to enable it on the driver while at it.
We've been listening for KEY_BRIGHTNESS* on Thinkpads for over a year.
It's already implemented and works fine.
> Non-bleeding-edge userspace that is not broken can remap keys already.
> FN+F1 generating KEY_FN_F1 makes a lot more sense to someone which has a
> blank FN+F1 key, than it generating "KEY_FOOBAR".
That's fine. Send KEY_FN_F1 if there's no label.
> So exactly what should I be changing to make it more useful? WHAT hot keys
> do you want mapped by default, and to which key codes? And forget the ones
> that need passive handling, these are not mapped for a very different
> reason.
On a machine with a glyph, the driver should generate a keycode
appropriate for that glyph.
--
Matthew Garrett | mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-15 22:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-14 14:11 [GIT PULL] thinkpad-acpi queue for 2.6.23 (v2) Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: enable more hotkeys Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <11844223322928-git-send-email-hmh-N3TV7GIv+o9fyO9Q7EP/yw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: add DMI-based modalias Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: remove all uneeded initializers Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: update information on T43 thermal sensor 0xc1 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: export hotkey maximum masks Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: export to sysfs the state of the radio slider switch Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: checkpoint sysfs interface version due to hotkey Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: register input device Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: add input device support to hotkey subdriver Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 22:31 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070714223144.GA25782-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 18:12 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070715181233.GG14134-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 18:45 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070715184519.GD3235-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 20:03 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 20:12 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 20:59 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 21:04 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 21:54 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070715215453.GJ19066-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 22:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-16 2:47 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-16 15:46 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-16 15:51 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-16 18:19 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-16 18:37 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: add power-management handler capability Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: export EV_SW SW_RADIO events Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: checkpoint sysfs interface version due to input layer Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: rename pci HID constant Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 22:37 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070714223713.GC25782-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 18:02 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 18:34 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 21:18 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 21:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-14 14:12 ` pci-ids: add Lenovo PCI vendor ID Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 11:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-15 21:22 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: store ThinkPad model information Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: allow use of CMOS NVRAM for brightness control Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: react to Lenovo ThinkPad differences in hot key Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 22:39 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070714223932.GD25782-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 17:59 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 18:31 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070715183150.GA3235-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 20:17 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070715201712.GD19066-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 20:24 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: make sure DSDT TMPx readings don't return +128 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: make EC-based thermal readings non-experimental Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: bump up version to 0.15 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:58 ` [GIT PULL] thinkpad-acpi queue for 2.6.23 (v2) Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:11 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: update CMOS commands documentation Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: make the input event mode the default Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 22:33 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 18:05 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070715180529.GF14134-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 18:38 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 20:09 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-15 20:13 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-15 21:14 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070715211421.GG19066-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 21:19 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070715211953.GA6527-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 22:08 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070715220801.GK19066-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-15 22:49 ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2007-07-16 0:12 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070716001239.GA31604-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-16 0:24 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-16 3:02 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
[not found] ` <20070716030254.GD31604-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-16 15:27 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-16 18:21 ` [ibm-acpi-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-14 14:12 ` ACPI: thinkpad_acpi: use bool for boolean parameters Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
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