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From: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
To: Derek Atkins <warlord@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	ipw3945-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, "Winkler,
	Tomas" <tomas.winkler@intel.com>,
	network manager <networkmanager-list@gnome.org>
Subject: Re: [ipw3945-devel] chaning mode only when interface down?
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:53:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070803145305.GE5137@tuxdriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <sjmy7gswuvw.fsf@pgpdev.ihtfp.org>

On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 10:33:07AM -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 14:48 +0200, dragoran wrote:
> >
> >> > Nono, you cannot solve it in the driver. The whole design of mac80211
> >> > mandates that assumption and I think it is a valid one to make.
> >> why? did the old way (allow mode changing while up) caused any problems?
> >
> > Why should it be allowed? Can you come up with a good reason for that
> > since you lose all state anyway when doing mode transitions?
> 
> Um, what state?  Sure you lose your layer 2 state, but why force a
> layer 3 lossage when you don't necessarily have to do so?  For
> example, I've seen plenty of networks that have both 802.11(a) and
> 802.11(b/g) networks that share absolutely everything at layer 3.

I think you are confusing a/b/g "mode" (which is _not_ the topic)
with AP/STA/IBSS/monitor "mode" (which is the topic).

John
-- 
John W. Linville
linville@tuxdriver.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-03 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-02  7:44 chaning mode only when interface down? dragoran
2007-08-02  9:14 ` Johannes Berg
2007-08-02  9:16   ` dragoran
2007-08-02 12:17     ` [ipw3945-devel] " Winkler, Tomas
2007-08-02 12:34       ` Johannes Berg
2007-08-02 12:41         ` Winkler, Tomas
2007-08-02 12:46           ` Johannes Berg
2007-08-02 13:11             ` Tomas Winkler
2007-08-02 12:48         ` dragoran
2007-08-02 12:53           ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]             ` <f6ca9fed0708020643p53ceedcav76b14814b1b1cabd@mail.gmail.com>
2007-08-02 15:52               ` Derek Atkins
2007-08-03  9:41                 ` Johannes Berg
2007-08-03 14:33             ` Derek Atkins
2007-08-03 14:50               ` Johannes Berg
2007-08-03 14:53               ` John W. Linville [this message]
2007-08-03 15:10                 ` Derek Atkins
2007-08-02 18:51         ` Dan Williams
2007-08-03  9:42           ` Johannes Berg
2007-08-03 11:20             ` Dan Williams
2007-08-30 22:24               ` blocking in dev->open (was: [ipw3945-devel] chaning mode only when interface down?) Johannes Berg
2007-08-02  9:18   ` chaning mode only when interface down? Andy Green
2007-08-02  9:59     ` Johannes Berg
2007-08-02 18:47     ` Dan Williams

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