From: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>
To: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Cc: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
Gabriel C <nix.or.die@googlemail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
jason.wessel@windriver.com, amitkale@linsyssoft.com,
Satyam Sharma <satyam@infradead.org>
Subject: [PATCH] docs: note about select in kconfig-language.txt
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 13:51:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070806115131.GB1973@ff.dom.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070802093659.GB27748@uranus.ravnborg.org>
Hi,
If there are no other plans of kconfig docs update I think this
message of yours should be useful enough. I made minimal fixes,
so if they are wrong or you prefer it otherwise, I'm OK with any
change to this proposal, including replacement with something
else.
Thanks & regards,
Jarek P.
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:36:59AM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
...
> > > seems to select NET_POLL_CONTROLLER after selecting NETPOLL, but
> > > still doesn't check for NETDEVICES dependency.
> >
> > That's odd. Adding Sam to the cc:.
>
> select is evil....
> select will by brute force set a symbol equal to 'y' without
> visiting the dependencies.
> So abusing select you are able to select a symbol FOO even
> if FOO depends on BAR that is not set.
>
> In general use select only for non-visible symbols (no promts anywhere)
> and for symbols with no dependencies.
> That will limit the suefullness but on the other hand avoid the illegal
> configurations all over.
>
> kconfig should one day warn about such things but I have not fel inclined
> to dive into the matters hoping that Roman does one day.
>
> Sam
>
----------->
Subject: docs: a warning note about select in kconfig-language.txt
A warning note of Sam Ravnborg about kconfig's select evilness,
dependencies and the future (slightly corrected).
Signed-off-by: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
---
diff -Nu9r 2.6.23-rc1-/Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt 2.6.23-rc1/Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt
--- 2.6.23-rc1-/Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt 2007-07-09 01:32:17.000000000 +0200
+++ 2.6.23-rc1/Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt 2007-08-06 12:50:34.000000000 +0200
@@ -92,18 +92,27 @@
- reverse dependencies: "select" <symbol> ["if" <expr>]
While normal dependencies reduce the upper limit of a symbol (see
below), reverse dependencies can be used to force a lower limit of
another symbol. The value of the current menu symbol is used as the
minimal value <symbol> can be set to. If <symbol> is selected multiple
times, the limit is set to the largest selection.
Reverse dependencies can only be used with boolean or tristate
symbols.
+ Note:
+ select is evil.... select will by brute force set a symbol
+ equal to 'y' without visiting the dependencies. So abusing
+ select you are able to select a symbol FOO even if FOO depends
+ on BAR that is not set. In general use select only for
+ non-visible symbols (no promts anywhere) and for symbols with
+ no dependencies. That will limit the usefulness but on the
+ other hand avoid the illegal configurations all over. kconfig
+ should one day warn about such things.
- numerical ranges: "range" <symbol> <symbol> ["if" <expr>]
This allows to limit the range of possible input values for int
and hex symbols. The user can only input a value which is larger than
or equal to the first symbol and smaller than or equal to the second
symbol.
- help text: "help" or "---help---"
This defines a help text. The end of the help text is determined by
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2007-07-25 12:25 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-25 17:23 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Len Brown
2007-07-25 18:58 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-07-25 19:13 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2007-07-25 20:22 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2007-07-25 20:36 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-07-25 20:36 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-07-25 21:52 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2007-07-25 21:52 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2007-07-26 7:25 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 7:25 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 17:54 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2007-07-26 17:54 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2007-07-28 14:03 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2007-07-28 14:03 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2007-07-25 23:26 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Len Brown
2007-07-26 9:41 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Mel Gorman
2007-07-26 13:53 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-25 12:40 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-25 20:05 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-07-25 12:55 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Cedric Le Goater
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2007-07-25 22:45 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-25 13:36 ` [-mm patch] one e1000 driver should be enough for everyone Adrian Bunk
2007-07-25 13:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-25 14:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-25 15:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-25 15:21 ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-25 15:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-25 20:50 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-25 16:32 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2007-07-25 21:56 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-07-25 16:36 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 -- mostly fails to build Andy Whitcroft
2007-07-25 17:04 ` Sam Ravnborg
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2007-07-26 10:49 ` FUJITA Tomonori
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2007-07-26 5:56 ` Andrew Morton
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2007-07-25 18:44 ` Edward Shishkin
2007-07-27 12:35 ` Edward Shishkin
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2007-07-25 18:48 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2007-07-25 18:53 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-07-25 19:18 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-25 19:21 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-07-25 20:58 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Gabriel C
2007-07-25 21:05 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Gabriel C
2007-07-25 21:11 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-25 21:13 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Gabriel C
2007-07-25 21:18 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-25 21:26 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Gabriel C
2007-07-26 0:07 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Greg KH
2007-07-26 0:28 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 1:55 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Dave Young
2007-07-26 2:23 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 20:18 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Dave Hansen
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2007-07-26 5:42 ` Greg KH
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2007-07-25 21:42 ` sukadev
2007-07-25 21:17 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1: git-kgdb breaks sh compilation Adrian Bunk
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2007-07-26 3:37 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-27 4:00 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-27 13:28 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-27 18:07 ` Andrew Morton
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2007-07-27 22:43 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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2007-07-31 18:48 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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2007-07-31 21:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-31 23:05 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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2007-08-04 2:15 ` Dan Williams
2007-08-10 0:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-15 23:36 ` Nelson, Shannon
2007-07-26 12:11 ` [PATCH] sparsemem: ensure we initialise the node mapping for SPARSEMEM_STATIC Andy Whitcroft
2007-07-26 12:58 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 sparsemem_vmemamp fix KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-07-26 14:39 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-07-26 14:44 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-07-27 13:28 ` [-mm patch] xtensa console.c: remove duplicate #include Frederik Deweerdt
2007-07-28 15:44 ` NETPOLL=y , NETDEVICES=n compile error ( Re: 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 ) Gabriel C
2007-07-28 17:26 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-28 18:42 ` Gabriel C
2007-07-31 8:32 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-07-31 10:14 ` Gabriel C
2007-07-31 11:44 ` Jason Wessel
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2007-07-31 12:17 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-07-31 15:05 ` Gabriel C
2007-08-01 9:59 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-02 2:02 ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-02 9:00 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-02 15:59 ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-03 7:30 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-02 9:36 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-08-02 10:32 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-02 11:40 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-02 11:40 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-02 11:56 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-02 12:52 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-06 11:51 ` Jarek Poplawski [this message]
2007-07-28 16:36 ` DCA=n , INTEL_IOATDMA=y " Gabriel C
2007-07-28 16:47 ` sound/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.h - declared 'static' but never defined warnings " Gabriel C
2007-07-28 17:07 ` mm/sparse.c compile error " Gabriel C
2007-07-28 17:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-30 12:16 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-07-28 19:32 ` [PATCH -mm] Fix libata warnings with CONFIG_PM=n Gabriel C
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2007-07-29 14:57 ` [-mm patch] fs/ecryptfs/: make code static Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 14:58 ` [-mm patch] make struct sdio_dev_attrs[] static Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 19:29 ` Pierre Ossman
2007-07-29 14:58 ` [-mm patch] MTD onenand_sim.c: make struct info static Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 14:58 ` Adrian Bunk
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2007-07-29 14:58 ` [-mm patch] USB: make dev_attr_authorized_default static Adrian Bunk
2007-07-31 19:13 ` Inaky Perez-Gonzalez
2007-07-29 14:59 ` [-mm patch] kernel/printk.c: make 2 variables static Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 16:51 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-29 14:59 ` [-mm patch] export v4l2_int_device_{,un}register Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 14:59 ` [-mm patch] kernel/pid.c: remove unused exports Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 15:00 ` [-mm patch] security/ cleanups Adrian Bunk
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2007-07-30 9:58 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Dave Young
2007-07-30 18:27 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-07-30 18:42 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-30 22:18 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 Satyam Sharma
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2007-08-01 15:24 ` 2.6.23-rc1-mm1 - loopback mount of files fails loop-use-unlocked_ioctl.patch Valdis.Kletnieks
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