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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, csnook@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	wensong@linux-vs.org, horms@verge.net.au, wjiang@resilience.com,
	cfriesen@nortel.com, zlynx@acm.org, rpjday@mindspring.com,
	jesper.juhl@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on alpha
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:08:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200708101108.20897.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1IJPkg-0000x0-00@gondolin.me.apana.org.au>

On Friday 10 August 2007 10:21:46 Herbert Xu wrote:
> Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > The compiler is within its rights to read a 32-bit quantity 16 bits at
> > at time, even on a 32-bit machine.  I would be glad to help pummel any
> > compiler writer that pulls such a dirty trick, but the C standard really
> > does permit this.
> 
> Code all over the kernel assumes that 32-bit reads/writes
> are atomic so while such a compiler might be legal it certainly
> can't compile Linux.

Yes, the kernel requirements are much stricter than ISO-C. And besides
it is a heavy user of C extensions anyways. On the other hand some of the
C99 extensions are not allowed. And then there is sparse, which enforces
a language which sometimes is quite far from standard C. You could say it is 
written in Linux-C, not ISO C. 

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-10  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-09 13:24 [PATCH 1/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on alpha Chris Snook
2007-08-09 14:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 14:53   ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 15:04     ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 15:24       ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 15:50         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-09 16:20           ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 18:38             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-09 19:05               ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 19:19                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-09 19:25                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-08-09 19:47                   ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 23:02                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-09 16:10         ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 16:36           ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 16:58             ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 17:14               ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 17:41                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 18:13                   ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 18:45                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 19:24                       ` Chris Snook
2007-08-10  1:28                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-10 19:49                           ` Chris Snook
2007-08-10 20:26                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-09 19:17                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-09 18:51             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-09 19:30               ` Chris Snook
2007-08-10  8:21           ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-10  9:08             ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-08-10 15:02               ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-10 20:07             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-11  0:00               ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-11  0:38                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-11  0:43                   ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-11  0:50                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-11  4:38                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks

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