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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Documentation files in html format?
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:51:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070810205117.GJ6002@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070810204025.GC29549@fieldses.org>

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 04:40:25PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 10:17:04PM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > I've read pro-plain text arguments, so I'll not repeat them. I also see
> > another advantage to plain text : it's very easy to draw ascii-art
> > diagrams of anything. It only takes a few minutes, is always inline
> > and readable with any tool.
> 
> Asciidoc should preserve ascii-art diagrams OK; the git docs use them
> all over.
> 
> Not that I'd necessarily push asciidoc.  But:
> 
> > I'd prefer that you define some writing conventions for plain-text
> > documents that anyone should try follow, starting with the 80-cols
> > limit to make Davem happy. I think that many of us can help define
> > such a "standard" indicating how to underline subtitles, how to
> > enumerate a list, how to avoid using tabs, how to write boxes and
> > arrows in their diagrams, etc...
> 
> ... at the point where you actually start setting standards for subtitle
> underlining and list enumeration, you'd want to take another look at
> asciidoc; since it already defines conventions for that stuff (which
> are probably close to what people would do anyway), it might make sense
> just to start using asciidoc.

The problem I have with asciidoc is that it's a nightmare to get it
to work. It's what GIT uses, and after spending a whole day trying
to *build* that thing, I finally resigned and asked Junio if he could
publish the pre-formatted manpages himself, which he agreed to.

All I remember is that there was a very deep level of dependencies
through XML craps^H^H^H^H^Hpackages and I don't remember what magic
things, but one full day trying to build something to read a doc is
too much, so I imagine that I would not even have tried that long
if I had wanted to complete a doc and check that my changes looked
right.

Maybe the language is fine, but the tool needs to build first.

Willy


  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-10 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-09 10:31 Documentation files in html format? Stephen Hemminger
2007-08-09 10:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-09 13:08 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2007-08-09 13:22   ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-08-09 15:26   ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-09 14:37     ` Rene Herman
2007-08-09 15:15     ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-09 19:10     ` Francois Romieu
2007-08-09 19:30       ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-09 22:27         ` Francois Romieu
2007-08-10  0:15           ` Rene Herman
2007-08-10  7:40     ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-08-10 13:52       ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-10 20:12         ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-08-10 23:27           ` Rene Herman
2007-08-11  6:31             ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-11 19:12               ` Rene Herman
2007-08-11 15:53           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-11 22:55           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-12  3:11           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-12  3:27             ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-01 18:39       ` Oleg Verych
2007-08-09 17:56 ` Bob Copeland
2007-08-09 19:14 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-09 19:58   ` Brennan Ashton
2007-08-09 20:03 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-08-09 20:08   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-10 20:17 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-10 20:40   ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-10 20:51     ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2007-08-10 23:08       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-08-11  5:33         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-11 14:19       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-11 14:17         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-11 23:00           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-12  3:12           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-12 13:10             ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-12 15:43               ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-08-12 18:25                 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-11 23:12   ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-12  3:12   ` Randy Dunlap
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     [not found] ` <8QdUr-5j-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-08-09 12:34   ` Bodo Eggert
2007-08-09 12:41     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-09 13:29       ` Bodo Eggert

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