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From: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
To: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: How to find out how many other processes share VM with $PID?
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:00:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200708282100.41443.vda.linux@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <388259805.10631@ustc.edu.cn>

On Tuesday 28 August 2007 01:10, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> > > There is a nice LWN article on this issue:
> > >         ELC: How much memory are applications really using?
> > >         http://lwn.net/Articles/230975/
> > >
> > > Another helpful patch could be:
> > >         maps: PSS(proportional set size) accounting in smaps
> > >         http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/8/19/23
> >
> > Thanks a lot, very useful pages indeed.
> >
> > However they still don't explain how I can avoid counting memory
> > twice for /proc/PID1 and /proc/PID2 when PID2 is a child of PID1,
> > created with CLONE_VM.
> >
> > The example: I allocate 1234k, dirty it, then clone with CLONE_VM.
> > I will seemingly have two processes, each using 1234k, _privately_
> > (i.e., pages are not shown as shared in smaps) -
> > which is technically correct, pages are not shared with other VMs,
> > but they ARE shared by means of these two processes having the same VM!
> >
> > How userspace tools can figure out that these processes have shared VM?
> >
> > IOW: do we need "VMsharecount: N" in addition to "Threads: N"
> > in /proc/PID/status?
>
> A full solution would require two parameters, i.e. VmUsers/VmMagic.
>
> But please make sure the new lines won't break important tools like
> ps/top/pmaps/...

Should be safe - tools skip lines they do not recognize.
Ok, we have "Threads: N".

I can cook up a patch which adds count of processes
which share VM with us - it's just atomic_read(&current->mm->mm_users).

What name do you like? 

SharedVmCount: N
VmUsers: N
other?

--
vda

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-28 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-27 11:56 How to find out how many other processes share VM with $PID? Denys Vlasenko
2007-08-27 12:13 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-27 12:13   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-27 13:26     ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-08-28  0:10       ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-28  0:10         ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-28 20:00           ` Denys Vlasenko [this message]
2007-08-29  7:14             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-29  7:14               ` Fengguang Wu

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