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From: "Andreas Herrmann" <andreas.herrmann3@amd.com>
To: "Andi Kleen" <ak@suse.de>
Cc: "Robert Richter" <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	patches@x86-64.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patches] [patch 3/5] x86: Add PCI extended config space access for AMD Barcelona
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:32:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070903083242.GA22144@alberich.amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200709011211.52167.ak@suse.de>

On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 12:11:52PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Thursday 30 August 2007 19:43:14 Robert Richter wrote:
> > This patch implements PCI extended configuration space access for
> > AMD's Barcelona CPUs. It extends the method using CF8/CFC IO
> > addresses. An x86 capability bit has been introduced that is set for
> > CPUs supporting PCI extended config space accesses.
> 
> We shouldn't need this because extended config space should work
> here and Linux should use it 
> (especially after we added the ugly Barcelona workaround into  that code) 

This patch is needed for all buggy BIOSes that don't correctly set up MCFG.

> The only exception would be if the user disables MMCONFIG in CONFIG, but that's
> their own fault then.

No, as you stated yourself there are two exceptions. And the more serious one is the
BIOS issue.

> Ok there might be buggy BIOS around with no or no usable MCFG table, but since
> extended config space is not really a critical feature that's not a big issue.

Not sure why you assume extended config space (ECS) is not critical.
Ok, for a lot of stuff it does not matter.
But it is needed for some devices for full functionality.
E.g. for perfmon (family 0x10/extended inerrupts) extended config space access
is a prerequisite.

> So I don't think we want this special case code at all and should
> just rely on MMCONFIG.

Rely on something unreliable (due to buggy/incomplete BIOS)?
I don't think we should do this.

IMHO it is best to try to use MMCONFIG if it's working and to use
a fallback (e.g. CF8 ECS access for family 0x10) if available.


Regards,

Andreas

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-03  8:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20070830174311.221133000@amd.com>
     [not found] ` <20070830174311.536394000@amd.com>
2007-09-01 10:11   ` [patch 3/5] x86: Add PCI extended config space access for AMD Barcelona Andi Kleen
2007-09-03  8:32     ` Andreas Herrmann [this message]
2007-09-03 10:15       ` [patches] " Andi Kleen
2007-09-03 11:27         ` Robert Richter
2007-09-03 12:48           ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-03 14:48             ` Robert Richter
2007-09-03 15:24               ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-04  6:54             ` Yinghai Lu
2007-09-04  7:20               ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-03 11:31         ` Andreas Herrmann
2007-09-03 12:52           ` Andi Kleen
     [not found] ` <20070830174311.344418000@amd.com>
2007-09-01 10:14   ` [patch 1/5] x86: Add AMD64 Barcelona PMU MSR definitions Andi Kleen
2007-09-03  8:17 [patch 0/5] (resent) x86: PCI extended config space access on AMD Barcelona CPUs Robert Richter
2007-09-03  8:17 ` [patch 3/5] x86: Add PCI extended config space access for AMD Barcelona Robert Richter
2007-09-03  8:31   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-09-03  9:17     ` [patches] " Andreas Herrmann
2007-09-03 11:33       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-09-03 15:47         ` Andreas Herrmann
2007-09-05  5:58           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-09-05  8:44             ` Robert Richter
2007-09-05 10:12               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-09-05 10:35                 ` Robert Richter
2007-09-05 11:05                 ` Arne Georg Gleditsch
2007-09-05 16:13                   ` Andreas Herrmann
2007-09-05 22:42                     ` Yinghai Lu
2007-09-06  8:31                       ` Arne Georg Gleditsch
2007-09-06  9:48                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-09-06 17:41                           ` Jesse Barnes
2007-09-06 17:50                             ` Yinghai Lu
2007-09-06 17:48                               ` Jesse Barnes
2007-09-06 17:48                           ` Yinghai Lu
2007-09-05 15:00             ` Andreas Herrmann
2007-09-06 10:14               ` Arjan van de Ven

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