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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Wake up mandatory locks waiter on chmod (v2)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:40:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070918174016.GF18476@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1190134496.6656.22.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>

On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 12:54:56PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 12:52 -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > So currently there's nothing to prevent this:
> > 
> > 				- write passes locks_mandatory_area() checks
> > 	- get mandatory lock
> > 	- read old data
> > 				- write updates file data
> > 	- read new data
> > 
> > You can see the data change even while you hold a mandatory lock that
> > should exclude writes.
> > 
> > Similarly you might think that an application could prevent anyone from
> > seeing the intermediate state of a file while it performs a series of
> > writes under an exclusive mandatory lock, but actually there's nothing
> > to stop a read in progress from racing with acquisition of the lock.
> > 
> > Unless I'm missing something, that makes our mandatory lock
> > implementation pretty pointless.  I wish we could either fix it or just
> > ditch it, but I suppose either option would be unpopular.
> 
> It gets even better when you throw mmap() into the mix :-)

Hm.  Documentation/mandatory.txt claims that it mandatory locks and
mmap() with MAP_SHARED exclude each other, but I can't see where that's
enfoced.  That file doesn't make any mention of the above race.

So for now I think someone should update that file and fcntl(2) to
mention these problems and to recommend rather strongly against using
mandatory locking.

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-18 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-17  8:13 [PATCH] Wake up mandatory locks waiter on chmod (v2) Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-17 13:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-17 14:16   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-17 16:00     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-18  6:33       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-18 15:19         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-18 16:14           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-18 16:52             ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-18 16:54               ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-18 17:40                 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2007-09-18 18:38                   ` Hugh Dickins
2007-09-25 16:55                   ` [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: move mandatory locking documentation to filesystems/ J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-25 16:56                     ` [PATCH 2/2] locks: add warning about mandatory locking races J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-25 17:12                     ` [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: move mandatory locking documentation to filesystems/ Randy Dunlap
2007-09-25 17:24                       ` J. Bruce Fields

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