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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Miloslav Semler <majkls@prepere.com>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
	serge@hallyn.com, davidsen@tmr.com, philipp@marek.priv.at,
	7eggert@gmx.de, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Chroot bug
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:53:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070925165341.GA12422@vino.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46F9351D.8020906@prepere.com>

Quoting Miloslav Semler (majkls@prepere.com):
>
>>>> So what? Just do this: chdir into the root after chroot.
>>>>       
>>> I don't think so.  His exploit just got me all the way out of a chroot 
>>> within a
>>> chroot within a chroot, inclusive of lots of chdirs.
>>>     
>>
>> Close all fds that point to directories outside the root ;-)
>>
>>   
> This  does not help.  Let's try:
> chroot somewhere
> mkdir foo
> fd = open /
> chroot foo
> fchdir fd
> chdir ".."
> ....
> chdir ".."
> chroot "."
> so you are in root.
>

Yes, to understand why that doesn't work it helps to understand why
pivot_root *does* work.  Pivot_root takes the new_root, which must be
a mount, and detaches it from it's mountpoint.  So it's not that we
try to intercept a chdir(root_dir/..), but rather we remove root_dir
from it's parent dir so that root_dir/.. must always return root_dir.

I'm sorry but I really don't see where hacking chroot to try and
detect and prevent chroot escapes is going to be acceptable to
anyone so long as pivot_root does the trick anyway.  If you want
portable, then write a little linux-only safe_chroot() library call
which does unshare();pivot_root() on linux and just chroot on a
system that does try to stop chroot escapes.

Besides as others have alluded to, if you have root privs, you can
always mknod /dev/hda1, mount that under /mnt, and then chroot or
pivot_root to there.

The containers work will, in fact, be intended to be a *safe*
jail.  That'll happen through pivot_root, capability masking,
perhaps device namespaces, etc.  But a secure container is still
a ways off.

-serge

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-25 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <95ctn-74b-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <95cMH-7um-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <95gdA-4OZ-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-09-20 11:13         ` sys_chroot+sys_fchdir Fix Bodo Eggert
2007-09-20 11:59           ` Philipp Marek
2007-09-20 12:52             ` majkls
2007-09-20 16:06             ` David Newall
2007-09-20 16:17               ` Philipp Marek
2007-09-20 18:02                 ` David Newall
2007-09-20 20:53                   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-21  8:29                     ` David Newall
2007-09-24 21:32                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-09-24 22:04                         ` David Newall
2007-09-24 23:00                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-09-25  7:45                             ` David Newall
2007-09-25 11:49                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-09-25 13:58                                 ` David Newall
2007-09-25 15:10                                   ` Chroot bug (was: sys_chroot+sys_fchdir Fix) David Newall
2007-09-25 15:20                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-25 15:39                                       ` Chroot bug Miloslav Semler
2007-09-25 15:41                                       ` David Newall
2007-09-25 15:48                                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-25 16:19                                           ` Miloslav Semler
2007-09-25 16:52                                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-25 17:00                                               ` Miloslav Semler
2007-09-25 17:05                                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-25 17:09                                                   ` Miloslav Semler
2007-09-25 17:09                                                   ` Al Viro
2007-09-25 17:19                                                     ` Miloslav Semler
2007-09-25 16:53                                             ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2007-09-25 20:51                                           ` David Newall
2007-09-25 15:30                                     ` Chroot bug (was: sys_chroot+sys_fchdir Fix) Alan Cox
2007-09-25 15:35                                       ` Chroot bug David Newall
2007-09-25 15:48                                         ` Alan Cox
2007-09-25 15:47                                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-25 23:50                                           ` David Newall
2007-09-26  0:18                                             ` Alan Cox
2007-09-26 10:24                                               ` David Newall
2007-09-26 10:47                                                 ` Alan Cox
2007-09-26 11:06                                                   ` David Newall
2007-09-26 11:20                                                     ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                                       ` <46FA41B4.9040104@prepere.com>
     [not found]                                                         ` <20070926123522.54ffd56f@the-village.bc.nu>
2007-09-26 11:34                                                           ` Miloslav Semler
2007-09-26 14:09                                                             ` Alan Cox
2007-09-26 13:13                                                     ` Bongani Hlope
2007-09-26  0:55                                             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-26  5:21                                               ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-26  5:25                                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-09-26 10:27                                                 ` David Newall
2007-09-26 10:45                                                   ` Olivier Galibert
2007-09-26 11:13                                                     ` David Newall
2007-09-26 13:18                                                       ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-09-26 15:02                                                       ` Olivier Galibert
2007-09-26 12:54                                                   ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-26 13:11                                                     ` Miloslav Semler
2007-09-26 13:42                                                       ` Al Viro
2007-09-26 14:51                                                         ` Miloslav Semler
2007-09-26 14:02                                                       ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-26 15:01                                                         ` Miloslav Semler
2007-09-27 13:49                                                           ` Jiri Kosina
2007-09-25 16:33                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-09-25 15:32                                     ` Chroot bug (was: sys_chroot+sys_fchdir Fix) Adrian Bunk
2007-09-25 15:43                                       ` Chroot bug Miloslav Semler
2007-09-25 16:02                                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-26 19:23                                     ` Chroot bug (was: sys_chroot+sys_fchdir Fix) Bodo Eggert
2007-09-24 23:02                           ` sys_chroot+sys_fchdir Fix Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <95UE2-1oR-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <95V72-2ly-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <97pG8-3B5-47@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <97sX2-p1-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-09-26  9:38                 ` Nick Craig-Wood

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