From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Thomas Fricaccia <thomas_fricacci@yahoo.com>,
Crispin Cowan <crispin@crispincowan.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
LSM ML <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: LSM conversion to static interface
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:05:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071023160520.GV30533@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <471CE238.5040107@qumranet.com>
On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 07:47:36PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 07:24:42PM -0700, Thomas Fricaccia wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I think Crispin has succinctly summed it up: irrevocably closing
>>> the LSM prevents commercial customers from using security modules other
>>> than that provided by their Linux distributor.
>>>
>>
>> Any "customer" using a security model other than provided by their Linux
>> distributor instantly voided all support from that distro by doing that.
>>
>> So, since the support is gone, they can easily build their own kernels,
>> with their own LSM interfaces, and get the exact same lack of support :)
>
> Running a vendor kernel has the advantage of reusing all the QA work that
> has gone into that kernel. It is very different from running 2.6.24-rc1
> (or 2.6.22.x). Hence projects like centos: you don't get any support, but
> the likelihood of actually requiring support is lower than running some
> random kernel.
You can also get the QA work by building your own kernel from vendor
kernel sources.
E.g. the Debian distribution ships a package linux-source-2.6.18 that
contains a linux-source-2.6.18.tar.bz2 with the patched 2.6.18 kernel
sources Debian uses for building its kernels.
> [but I agree that someone who has somehow determined that they need a
> specific LSM will probably have determined that they need vendor support as
> well]
cu
Adrian
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-23 16:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-22 2:24 LSM conversion to static interface Thomas Fricaccia
2007-10-22 3:59 ` Greg KH
2007-10-22 17:47 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <e7d8f83e0710221559i6b14469fjebceee12c6dec98e@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <471D8877.5030901@crispincowan.com>
2007-10-23 13:32 ` LSM and Containers (was: LSM conversion to static interface) Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-23 17:57 ` LSM and Containers Crispin Cowan
2007-10-24 0:07 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-24 23:07 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-24 23:21 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-25 0:20 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-25 1:44 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-25 4:31 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-23 16:05 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-10-23 16:52 ` LSM conversion to static interface Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-10-22 10:07 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-22 16:10 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-22 16:50 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-22 16:56 ` Greg KH
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-25 11:33 Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-26 10:40 ` Samir Bellabes
2007-10-22 17:00 Thomas Fricaccia
2007-10-22 17:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-22 17:13 ` Greg KH
2007-10-23 5:14 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-23 5:32 ` david
2007-10-23 11:38 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-23 5:53 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2007-10-23 7:12 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-23 8:17 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-10-24 3:41 ` Greg KH
[not found] <167451.96128.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
2007-10-18 2:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-19 20:26 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-10-19 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-20 11:05 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-20 22:57 ` James Morris
2007-10-21 22:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-23 9:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 5:44 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2007-10-23 8:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 9:14 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-10-23 9:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 15:20 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-23 15:28 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 15:34 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-25 10:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-19 21:07 ` James Morris
2007-10-18 1:34 Thomas Fricaccia
2007-10-18 2:03 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-18 2:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18 3:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
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