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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwish.07@gmail.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Smackv10: Smack rules grammar + their stateful parser
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 02:59:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071107015912.GT26163@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0711061705340.15101@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 05:06:23PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >
> > How should TOMOYO implement it's "match one character" in a pattern
> > (used to allow or deny access in a name-based MAC)?
> 
> .. I think such a design is fundamentally bogus. You don't have 
> "characters". You have "bytes".

Users are used to work on characters, not on bytes.

> So you either implement "match one byte", or you go crazy. It's that 
> simple.

Sure, you can limit what is possible and what not.

But there are still many pitfalls, e.g. if someone would allow the 
construct "[abc]" in patterns for matching one of these characters you'd 
have to ensure that your syntax contains explicit character delimiters 
or a pattern might match something completely different from what was 
intended.

My opinion is that extended parsing of non-ASCII strings will cause too 
many problems, but it seems we can only agree to disagree on this.

> 		Linus

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-07  1:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-02 20:50 [PATCH] Version 10 (2.6.24-rc1) Smack: Simplified Mandatory Access Control Kernel Casey Schaufler
2007-11-03 16:43 ` [PATCH] Smackv10: Smack rules grammar + their stateful parser Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-11-03 18:30   ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-03 22:12     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-11-04 12:28   ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-04 13:23     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-11-04 16:37       ` Casey Schaufler
2007-11-05  9:41     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-11-05 16:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-05 21:56         ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-11-06 10:00           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-06 12:27             ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-11-06 13:58               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-06 14:32                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-11-06 14:59                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-06 15:27                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-11-06 22:42                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-05 23:38         ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-11-06  8:06         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-06 15:39           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-06 23:00             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-06 23:08               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-07  0:07                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-07  0:27                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-07  0:43                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-07  1:03                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-11-07  1:06                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-07  1:59                         ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-11-07  4:09                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-07 15:08                           ` Alan Cox
2007-11-04 20:06   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-11-05  0:56   ` [PATCH] Smackv10: Smack rules grammar + their stateful parser(2) Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-11-10 17:05     ` Jakob Oestergaard
2007-11-10 19:45       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-11-11 12:44     ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-11 18:37       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-11-06  6:33   ` [PATCH] Smackv10: Smack rules grammar + their stateful parser Adrian Bunk
2007-11-06  8:26     ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-06  8:56       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-06 11:02         ` Alan Cox
2007-11-06 11:34         ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-11-06 11:47           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-06 12:23             ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-11-06 12:49               ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-06 13:34                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-06 14:05                   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-11-06 14:10                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-06 14:30                       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-11-06 15:53                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-07 10:56                   ` [PATCH] Fix isspace() and other ctype.h functions to ignore chars 128-255 Kyle Moffett

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