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From: "Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lclaudio@uudg.org>
To: John Sigler <linux.kernel@free.fr>
Cc: linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: syslog(3) blocks when local socket is full
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:46:59 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071113154659.GN6086@unix.sh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4739B6CB.4070903@free.fr>

On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 03:38:03PM +0100, John Sigler wrote:
| [ This message has also been posted to comp.unix.programmer ]
| 
| Hello everyone,
| 
| My platform: Linux 2.6.22.1-rt9 + glibc 2.3.6
| 
| I'm writing a "real-time" application that runs with high priority
| (40 or 80 in SCHED_FIFO). I use syslog(3) to log.
| 
| As far as I can see, syslog(3) blocks when the local socket becomes
| full (11 messages on my system).
| 
| Consider the following program.
| 
| #include <syslog.h>
| int main(void)
| {
|   int i;
|   for (i=0; i < 500; ++i) syslog(LOG_INFO, "I=%d", i);
|   return 0;
| }

John, I use glibc-2.6-4 and you test program worked fine. Probably your
manpage (3) for syslog may have details on this feature. You probably have
reached one of the old approaches to avoid DoS via syslog. Limited message
rate would be a reasonable assumption.

One way to better understand what's going on is to either setup syslogd or
your client program (via openlog) to enter in debug mode an print to
stderr.

Luis

| 
| I kill syslogd, then start the above program. It blocks.
| I kill it, then start syslogd, which grabs the following messages.
| 
| Nov 13 11:18:57 venus a.out: I=0
| Nov 13 11:18:57 venus a.out: I=1
| Nov 13 11:18:57 venus a.out: I=2
| Nov 13 11:18:57 venus a.out: I=3
| Nov 13 11:18:57 venus a.out: I=4
| Nov 13 11:18:57 venus a.out: I=5
| Nov 13 11:18:57 venus a.out: I=6
| Nov 13 11:18:57 venus a.out: I=7
| Nov 13 11:18:57 venus a.out: I=8
| Nov 13 11:18:57 venus a.out: I=9
| Nov 13 11:18:57 venus a.out: I=10
| 
| (The process managed to write 11 messages before being blocked.)
| 
| I expected a local socket to buffer way more than 11 messages.
| I expected a local socket to discard new messages when it is full.
| Apparently, these expectations are incorrect.
| 
| I can see how this behavior can become a problem:
| 
| Consider process A with prio 80 in SCHED_FIFO and process B with prio 10
| in SCHED_FIFO, i.e. process B only runs when A does not want the CPU.
| (syslogd is in SCHED_OTHER.)
| 
| 'A' runs, starts logging, and reaches the 11-message limit. The call to
| write() blocks, and 'A' is put to sleep. The scheduler then picks 'B'
| because it has higher priority than syslogd. If B runs "forever", 'A'
| will never get the CPU back.
| 
| Is this scenario possible?
| 
| Is this what is called priority inversion?
| 
| Regards.
| 
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[ Luis Claudio R. Goncalves                    Bass - Gospel - RT ]
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-13 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-13 14:38 syslog(3) blocks when local socket is full John Sigler
2007-11-13 15:46 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves [this message]
2007-11-13 16:15   ` John Sigler
2007-11-13 17:14     ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2007-11-14  9:04       ` John Sigler

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