From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: Beagle and logging inotify events
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:32:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071114193245.GE3966@webber.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <473B2329.8000407@oracle.com>
On Nov 14, 2007 11:32 -0500, Chuck Lever wrote:
> I disagree: we don't need a "bullet-proof" log. We can get a significant
> performance improvement even with a permanent dnotify log implemented in
> user-space. We already have well-defined fallback behavior if such a log
> is missing or incomplete.
>
> The problem with a permanent inotify log is that it can become unmanageably
> enormous, and a performance problem to boot. Recording at that level of
> detail makes it more likely that the logger won't be able to keep up with
> file system activity.
>
> A lightweight solution gets us most of the way there, is simple to
> implement, and doesn't introduce many new issues. As long as it can tell
> us precisely where the holes are, it shouldn't be a problem.
Jan Kara is working on a patch for ext4 which would store a recursive
timestamp for each directory that gives the latest time that a file in
that directory was modified. ZFS has a similar mechanism by virtue of
doing full-tree updates during COW of all the metadata blocks and storing
the most recent transaction number in each block. I suspect btrfs could
do the same thing easily.
That would allow recursive-descent filesystem traversal to be much more
efficient because whole chunks of the filesystem tree can be ignored during
scans.
Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
Sr. Software Engineer, Lustre Group
Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-14 19:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-14 0:04 Beagle and logging inotify events Jon Smirl
2007-11-14 13:29 ` Chuck Lever
2007-11-14 13:44 ` Jon Smirl
2007-11-14 14:41 ` Chuck Lever
2007-11-14 15:01 ` Jon Smirl
2007-11-14 16:32 ` Chuck Lever
2007-11-14 17:46 ` Jon Smirl
2007-11-14 19:32 ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2007-11-14 19:38 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-15 19:59 ` Jan Kara
2007-11-15 20:14 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-15 20:14 ` Jon Smirl
2007-11-14 15:30 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-14 19:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-14 19:22 ` Jon Smirl
2007-11-14 19:30 ` J. Bruce Fields
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