From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1ItjCp-0000Fb-Fp for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:24:55 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ItjCo-0000E9-5f for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:24:54 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ItjCm-0000C3-NG for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:24:53 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItjCm-0000C0-Hw for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:24:52 -0500 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ItjCm-0000w9-6M for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:24:52 -0500 Received: from [192.168.10.6] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItjCl-0005lJ-0O for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:24:51 +0100 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItjCV-00053f-KP for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:24:35 +0100 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:24:35 +0100 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20071118122435.GA19370@thorin> References: <20071110213136.GA18400@thorin> <87sl33rdoz.fsf@xs4all.nl> <20071118115656.GB18369@thorin> <47402C4B.20907@nic.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <47402C4B.20907@nic.fi> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Microsoft discourages use of Outlook. X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: serial port X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:24:54 -0000 On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 02:12:59PM +0200, Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote: > Robert Millan wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 12:33:00PM +0100, Marco Gerards wrote: > >> Robert Millan writes: > >> Perhaps because the serial command sets it up? Although I agree it > >> seems a bit weird that it works this way. Perhaps it should be > >> enabled with the same defaults from the beginning? > >> > >> One problem of initializing it is that hardware will be accessed, > >> while it might not be desirable. > > > > Maybe we could move this to grub_term.init ? This way hardware is not > > accessed untill user requests a switch. > > This is the same way it works with gfxterm. You define video mode > beforehand of the switch. > > But there is actually a one architectual issue here... How are we going > to support graphical terminal and serial terminal at the same time? eg. > allow user to enable multiple terminals... For input or output? -- Robert Millan I know my rights; I want my phone call! What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.)