From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.24-rc3: find complains about /proc/net
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:35:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071120223559.GA6655@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1ve7wr28z.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
these are all questions for Ulrich and Roland - Cc:-ed them.
* Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> writes:
>
> > * Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Nov 20 18:03 3 -> /proc/net
> >> > ...
> >>
> >> Yes all of those are nasty. So much for my clever way of implementing
> >> these things. Grr. Simple hacks that almost work!
> >
> > btw., in case you feel inclined, i recently did some userspace coding
> > and found to my surprise that /proc/self points to the parent task, not
> > the thread itself (giving threads no real way to examine themselves). If
> > you are hacking in this area, would it be a big trouble to add something
> > like /proc/self-task/ or something like that? I had to use a raw gettid
> > syscall to figure out the TID to get to /proc/*/tasks/TID/sched
> > instrumentation info - which is quite a PITA.
>
> Agreed. I have been debating with myself in the last couple of days
> if it is a bug that /proc/self uses the tgid and not the actual
> pid/tid value.
>
> If I can be convinced that posix threads don't care I will happily
> just switch /proc/self, calling the current implementation a bug.
>
> I think it is a bug the real question is what are the backwards
> compatibility implications. Do posix threads care?
>
> It appears to me that either we need to fix /proc/self or we need to
> add /proc/task-self and fix /proc/mounts to point at that.
>
> In the normal case we share all of the same things so I think it is a
> don't care. Except that /proc/self/status | grep Pid returns the
> tgid.
>
> Hmm. I think I am just going to send Andrew a patch for 2.6.25 that
> just fixes /proc/self. I just fail to see how using the tgid is
> correct. The only cases we could care seem to do the wrong thing when
> we use the tgid.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-20 22:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-19 19:10 2.6.24-rc3: find complains about /proc/net Pavel Machek
2007-11-19 22:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-20 15:51 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-20 21:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-20 21:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-20 22:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-20 22:35 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-11-20 22:54 ` Roland McGrath
2007-11-20 23:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-20 23:06 ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-11-20 23:26 ` Roland McGrath
2007-11-20 23:32 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-20 23:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-20 23:51 ` Roland McGrath
2007-11-21 0:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-21 1:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-21 0:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-20 23:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-20 22:41 ` [PATCH] proc: Fix the threaded /proc/self Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-20 22:58 ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-11-20 23:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-21 1:19 ` 2.6.24-rc3: find complains about /proc/net Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-21 6:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-21 9:36 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-24 23:34 ` [CFT][PATCH] proc_net: Remove userspace visible changes Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-26 8:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-26 22:17 ` [PATCH 2.6.24-rc3] Fix /proc/net breakage Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-27 11:20 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-27 12:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-07 4:51 ` David Woodhouse
2007-12-07 10:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-07 11:11 ` Denis V. Lunev
2007-12-27 17:40 ` Andreas Mohr
2007-12-27 18:41 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-12-27 22:17 ` Andreas Mohr
2007-12-28 6:22 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-12-28 7:21 ` Andreas Mohr
2007-12-30 16:14 ` [usb regression] " Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 20:34 ` Alan Stern
2007-12-30 20:34 ` Alan Stern
2007-12-31 5:25 ` Greg KH
2007-12-31 17:49 ` Alan Stern
2007-12-31 19:26 ` Greg KH
2008-01-02 6:00 ` Greg KH
2008-01-02 6:13 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-01-02 7:14 ` Greg KH
2008-01-02 7:14 ` Greg KH
2008-01-02 15:56 ` Alan Stern
2008-01-02 15:56 ` Alan Stern
2008-01-02 18:48 ` David Brownell
2008-01-02 18:48 ` David Brownell
2008-01-02 6:04 ` Andreas Mohr
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2007-11-21 1:21 ` 2.6.24-rc3: find complains about /proc/net Robert Hancock
2007-11-21 1:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
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