From: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
xfs-oss <xfs@oss.sgi.com>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9]: Reduce Log I/O latency
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:41:06 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071122034106.GV114266761@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071122025726.GG17536@waste.org>
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 08:57:27PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 12:12:14PM +1100, David Chinner wrote:
> > In all the cases that I know of where ppl are using what could
> > be considered real-time I/O (e.g. media environments where they
> > do real-time ingest and playout from the same filesystem) the
> > real-time ingest processes create the files and do pre-allocation
> > before doing their I/O. This I/O can get held up behind another
> > process that is not real time that has issued log I/O.
> >
> > Given there is no I/O priority inheritence and having log I/O stall
> > will stall the entire filesystem, we cannot allow log I/O to
> > stall in real-time environments. Hence it must have the highest
> > possible priority to prevent this.
>
> I've seen PVRs that would be upset by this. They put media on one
> filesystem and database/apps/swap/etc. on another, but have everything
> on a single spindle. Stalling a media filesystem read for a write
> anywhere else = fail.
Sounds like the PVR is badly designed to me. If a write can cause a
read to miss a playback deadline, then you haven't built enough
buffering into your playback application.
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
Principal Engineer
SGI Australian Software Group
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-22 3:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20071122003339.GH114266761__34694.2978365861$1195691722$gmane$org@sgi.com>
2007-11-22 0:49 ` [PATCH 2/9]: Reduce Log I/O latency Andi Kleen
2007-11-22 1:12 ` David Chinner
2007-11-22 2:57 ` Matt Mackall
2007-11-22 3:41 ` David Chinner [this message]
2007-11-22 7:25 ` Matt Mackall
2007-11-22 10:31 ` David Chinner
2007-11-22 18:10 ` Matt Mackall
2007-11-22 22:29 ` David Chinner
2007-11-22 23:09 ` David Chinner
2007-11-23 0:21 ` Matt Mackall
2007-11-23 0:20 ` Matt Mackall
2007-11-22 3:28 ` Stewart Smith
2007-11-22 12:06 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-22 13:15 ` David Chinner
2007-11-23 2:53 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-23 4:03 ` David Chinner
2007-11-23 12:01 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-24 18:43 ` Matt Mackall
2007-11-22 0:33 David Chinner
2007-11-26 2:11 ` Lachlan McIlroy
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