From: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>,
Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
tvrtko.ursulin@sophos.com,
Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Out of tree module using LSM
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:08:42 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071129220842.GZ8181@ftp.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2812.1196369788@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 03:56:28PM -0500, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> Yes, most of these schemes *can* be bypassed because some malicious code does a
> mmap() or similar trick. But what is being overlooked here is that in most
> cases, what is *desired* is a way to filter things being handled by *non*
> malicious code. Yeah, sure, a shar archive can contain a binary that does evil
> things - but if we stop /bin/cp from copying the file that has the evil in it,
> it's a non-issue.
Then all you need is scan-on-commit with commit-on-close. Which requires
no changes of anything that would run in kernel mode and no bothering with
LSM whatsoever.
Incidentally, I would really love to see the threat profile we are talking
about. I have some impressions in that area, but I would rather keep them
to myself for now - I really want to see the answers.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-29 22:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-28 12:42 Out of tree module using LSM Tvrtko A. Ursulin
2007-11-28 14:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-28 16:38 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-11-28 16:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-28 17:39 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-28 18:22 ` tvrtko.ursulin
2007-11-28 19:50 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-29 16:12 ` tvrtko.ursulin
2007-11-29 0:12 ` James Morris
2007-11-29 16:27 ` Jon Masters
2007-11-29 16:51 ` Greg KH
2007-11-29 16:51 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-29 16:52 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-29 0:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-29 1:45 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-11-28 18:15 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-11-28 18:30 ` Al Viro
2007-11-29 0:38 ` Greg KH
2007-11-29 0:53 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-29 1:07 ` Greg KH
2007-11-29 16:36 ` Jon Masters
2007-11-29 16:47 ` Greg KH
2007-11-29 16:53 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-29 16:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-29 17:27 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-29 22:58 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-08 10:50 ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-29 17:03 ` Greg KH
2007-11-29 17:35 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-29 17:45 ` Greg KH
2007-11-29 18:03 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-29 18:19 ` Justin Banks
2007-11-29 18:38 ` Jon Masters
2007-11-29 17:51 ` Al Viro
2007-11-29 17:05 ` Jon Masters
2007-11-29 17:14 ` Greg KH
2007-11-29 16:26 ` tvrtko.ursulin
2007-11-29 17:36 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-29 18:40 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-29 18:56 ` Jon Masters
2007-11-29 19:11 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-29 19:45 ` Jon Masters
2007-11-29 20:56 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-11-29 22:08 ` Al Viro [this message]
2007-11-30 0:50 ` James Morris
2007-11-29 23:31 ` Jon Masters
2007-11-29 21:45 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-29 22:12 ` Justin Banks
2007-11-30 1:48 ` Al Viro
2007-11-30 15:37 ` Justin Banks
2007-11-29 23:34 ` Jon Masters
2007-11-30 6:20 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-11-30 13:30 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-29 21:09 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-28 19:20 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-28 19:52 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-28 20:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-11-29 16:39 ` tvrtko.ursulin
2007-12-01 8:43 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-02 19:44 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-02 20:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-02 20:06 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-02 20:22 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-02 21:09 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-02 21:56 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-02 23:15 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-02 23:23 ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-29 0:58 ` Greg KH
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-11-30 20:52 Crispin Cowan
2007-11-30 21:36 ` James Morris
2007-11-30 23:52 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-12-01 0:05 ` James Morris
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2007-12-03 22:45 ` Bodo Eggert
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