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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jie Chen <chen@jlab.org>
Cc: Simon Holm Th??gersen <odie@cs.aau.dk>,
	Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: Possible bug from kernel 2.6.22 and above, 2.6.24-rc4
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 17:47:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071205164723.GA25641@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4756D058.1070500@jlab.org>


* Jie Chen <chen@jlab.org> wrote:

>> the moment you saturate the system a bit more, the numbers should 
>> improve even with such a ping-pong test.
>
> You are right. If I manually do load balance (bind unrelated processes 
> on the other cores), my test code perform as well as it did in the 
> kernel 2.6.21.

so right now the results dont seem to be too bad to me - the higher 
overhead comes from two threads running on two different cores and 
incurring the overhead of cross-core communications. In a true 
spread-out workloads that synchronize occasionally you'd get the same 
kind of overhead so in fact this behavior is more informative of the 
real overhead i guess. In 2.6.21 the two threads would stick on the same 
core and produce artificially low latency - which would only be true in 
a real spread-out workload if all tasks ran on the same core. (which is 
hardly the thing you want on openmp)

In any case, if i misinterpreted your numbers or if you just disagree, 
or if have a workload/test that shows worse performance that it 
could/should, let me know.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-05 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-21 20:34 Possible bug from kernel 2.6.22 and above Jie Chen
2007-11-21 22:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-22  1:52   ` Jie Chen
2007-11-22  2:32     ` Simon Holm Thøgersen
2007-11-22  2:58       ` Jie Chen
2007-11-22 20:19         ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-04 13:17         ` Possible bug from kernel 2.6.22 and above, 2.6.24-rc4 Ingo Molnar
2007-12-04 15:41           ` Jie Chen
2007-12-05 15:29           ` Jie Chen
2007-12-05 15:40             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-05 16:16               ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-05 16:25                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-05 16:29                   ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-05 16:22               ` Jie Chen
2007-12-05 16:47                 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-12-05 17:47                   ` Jie Chen
2007-12-05 20:03                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-05 20:23                       ` Jie Chen
2007-12-05 20:46                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-05 20:52                           ` Jie Chen
2007-12-05 21:02                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-05 22:16                               ` Jie Chen
2007-12-06 10:43                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-06 16:29                                   ` Jie Chen
2007-12-10 10:59                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-10 20:04                                       ` Jie Chen
2007-12-11 10:51                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-11 15:28                                           ` Jie Chen
2007-12-11 15:52                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-11 16:39                                               ` Jie Chen
2007-12-11 21:23                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-11 22:11                                                   ` Jie Chen
2007-12-12 12:49                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-05 20:36 ` Possible bug from kernel 2.6.22 and above Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-05 20:53   ` Jie Chen

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