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From: Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>
To: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Option to disable AMD C1E (allows dynticks to work)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:10:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071215021032.252455be@linux360.ro> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47630521.4060505@redhat.com>

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:35:13 -0500
Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 12/14/2007 05:17 AM, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >> so do whatever is necessary to enable dynticks. 
> > 
> > dynticks' main purpose is to save power, but C1e saves more power.
> > Disabling C1e for dynticks would be a fairly useless default
> > trade off.
> > 
> 
> What about machines where the BIOS has disabled C1e on CPU 0 but
> left it enabled on CPU 1 ??

Do you mean Linux should enable C1E on CPU 0 if it's detected on CPU 1?
C3 + dynticks make up a better power saver than simply C1E, as far as I
know. Higher C-states should be enabled on such CPUs, as AMD docs say
firmware should either enable C1E or C2 & C3 (it must provide one of
these mutually exclusive options). I take having C1E on the second CPU
but not the first as an attempt on BIOS's part to provide higher
C-states instead of the former. How broken is it, really?

But maybe someone with access to such hardware can tell us what
happens: does he get C2/C3 power states under such circumstances?

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-15  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-13 22:44 [PATCH] Option to disable AMD C1E (allows dynticks to work) Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-13 22:33 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-14 12:39   ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-14 10:17     ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-14 13:41       ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-14 12:20         ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-14 16:01           ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-14 18:07             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-12-14 18:12               ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-14 19:57                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-12-14 20:06                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-14 19:58                 ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-14 18:10             ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-14 19:53               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-12-14 22:35       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-12-15  0:10         ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu [this message]
2007-12-15 12:41         ` Andi Kleen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-12-13 22:47 Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-13 22:58 ` Johannes Weiner
2007-12-14 12:48   ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-18 15:43 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-18 17:11   ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-14  0:14 Mikhail Kshevetskiy
     [not found] <47754735.1050009@richardharman.com>
2007-12-29  7:52 ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-29  9:09   ` Richard Harman
2007-12-29 11:19     ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-29 11:46     ` Islam Amer
2007-12-30 20:45     ` Rene Herman
2007-12-29 14:43 David P. Reed
2007-12-29 22:28 ` Islam Amer
2007-12-30  0:35   ` Islam Amer
2007-12-30 12:57     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30  1:38   ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30  1:49     ` Islam Amer
2007-12-30  3:24       ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 10:17       ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-30 14:42         ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-30 21:12           ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-31  2:34             ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-30 20:57         ` Richard Harman
2007-12-30 21:18           ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-30 13:36             ` Richard Harman
2007-12-30 23:32               ` Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
2007-12-31  0:30               ` David P. Reed

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