From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1J3rHM-0001Ii-GK for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:03:28 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J3rHK-0001H8-Jy for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:03:26 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J3rHI-0001GZ-6F for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:03:25 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J3rHH-0001GP-Di for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:03:23 -0500 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J3rHG-0002Lc-HU for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:03:23 -0500 Received: from [192.168.10.6] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1J3rHC-0003R3-3e for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:03:20 +0100 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1J3rGV-0001yT-FE for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:02:35 +0100 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:02:35 +0100 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20071216110235.GA7069@thorin> References: <20071206120123.GC13758@thorin> <20071215224317.GA5321@thorin> <4764FD77.2090609@nic.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4764FD77.2090609@nic.fi> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: BTS for GRUB 2 (Re: BTS overhaul) X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:03:27 -0000 On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 12:27:03PM +0200, Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote: > Robert Millan wrote: > > The creature has been seized: > > > > http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=grub > > > > I've left the bugs that apply to documentation since we'll probably reuse > > much of GRUB Legacy's and they will still apply. > > > > Finally the BTS is usable for keeping track of GRUB 2 stuff. > > > > Two thoughts: > > > > - The website still prompts to send GRUB 2 queries to grub-devel, > > should we adjust that to make them use the BTS? > > Yes. And for grub legacy users (and version info what is grub legacy) > there should be note that these are no longer being processed or > something like that. Ok then. I suggest that we move grub-legacy-bugs.en.html to grub-2-bugs.en.html, and create a new grub-legacy-bugs.en.html prompting reporters to try reproduce their problem in GRUB 2 (if they have a problem) or update their patches to GRUB 2. > > - The BTS sends bug notifications to bug-grub. Rather than moving those > > to this list, perhaps it'd be a good idea to claim bug-grub for GRUB 2 > > (and move GRUB Legacy queries to /dev/full), so that bug tracking (which > > tends to be quite verbose) is separate and this list can be used for > > general discussion more confortably. > > > > What do you think? > > I think now would be good spot to re-configure mailing lists :) > > bug-grub@ sounds like a bug list. > grub-devel@ sound link a development list. Good. I'm subscribing to bug-grub then. Another question is, how will we do context reply for patches? The BTS doesn't seem to easily allow this. Maybe we could followup on our replies via bug-grub ? But a problem with that is that it'll be hard to see the full context of a discussion when browsing bugs. Another problem is that submitter is likely not subscribed to bug-grub (does the message you get when trying to write there without being subscribed say you have to subscribe, or that you have to wait for someone to process your mail (which won't happen) ?). > grub-help@ or grub-users@ would be more fit for user discussions. Are > there any GNU "standards" for these? And perhaps require to switch to > subscribe only lists. The convention in GNU projects is to call them "help-$project". -- Robert Millan I know my rights; I want my phone call! What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.)