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From: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
To: Indan Zupancic <indan@nul.nu>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	david@davidnewall.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] [RFC] Simple tamper-proof device filesystem.
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:48:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071216194839.GV8181@ftp.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46595.81.207.0.53.1197823928.squirrel@secure.samage.net>

On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:52:08PM +0100, Indan Zupancic wrote:

> What prevents them from mounting tmpfs on top of /dev, bypassing your fs?

Or binding /dev/null over nodes they want to get rid of...

> Also, if they have root there are plenty of ways to prevent an administrator
> from logging in, e.g. using iptables or changing the password.

Indeed.

BTW, tmpfs with root marked append-only and populated in normal ways on boot
would get a comparable effect without spending so much efforts.  Still won't
really help if attacker gains root, but then neither will your variant.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-16 19:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20071216080441.435456586@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
     [not found] ` <20071216080628.061470932@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
2007-12-16 10:44   ` [patch 0/2] [RFC] Simple tamper-proof device filesystem Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-16 10:56     ` [patch 1/2] " Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-06 15:29       ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-18 15:55         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-18 16:43           ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-16 11:21       ` David Newall
2007-12-16 11:26         ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-16 11:31           ` David Newall
2007-12-16 11:36             ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-16 11:58               ` David Newall
2007-12-16 12:03                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-16 12:14                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-17  6:00                     ` David Newall
2007-12-18 15:33                       ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-12-16 16:52                   ` Indan Zupancic
2007-12-16 19:48                     ` Al Viro [this message]
2007-12-17  0:40                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-17 11:44                       ` Indan Zupancic
2007-12-17 12:59                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-17 13:05                         ` Al Boldi
2007-12-17 13:16                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-18 15:22                           ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-12-19 12:11                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-19 19:14                               ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-12-17 13:32                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-17  6:42                     ` penguin-kernel
2007-12-17  8:38                       ` David Wagner
2007-12-17  1:19                   ` David Wagner
2007-12-17 19:48       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20071217194802.GA14156-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-18  0:03           ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-18  0:03             ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-18  0:39             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-18  1:39               ` Oren Laadan
2007-12-18  2:09                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-18  3:04                   ` Oren Laadan
2007-12-19  9:43                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-12-19 14:10                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-20  0:07                         ` Oren Laadan
2007-12-20  7:42                           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-12-20 14:09                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                             ` <476A1CE0.30505-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-21  1:47                               ` Oren Laadan
2007-12-21  1:47                                 ` Oren Laadan
2007-12-19 14:13                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-18  1:55               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-18  2:26                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-18  2:53                   ` serge
2007-12-18  3:40                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-19 23:43       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-24 13:09         ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-16 11:03     ` [patch 2/2] " Tetsuo Handa

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