From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1J63Je-0007CO-M4 for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 07:18:54 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J63Jd-0007BJ-FH for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 07:18:53 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J63Ja-000774-7X for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 07:18:52 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J63Ja-00076n-0h for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 07:18:50 -0500 Received: from [69.60.117.155] (helo=aybabtu.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J63Ja-0001MP-4y for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 07:18:50 -0500 Received: from [192.168.10.6] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1J63JX-0000jZ-Qx for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:18:48 +0100 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1J62LF-0001Gl-2B for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:16:29 +0100 Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:16:29 +0100 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20071222111629.GA4788@thorin> References: <1196963148.15804.44.camel@dv> <200712180357.38552.okuji@enbug.org> <8763yww6mc.fsf@lab.ossystems.com.br> <200712220928.28355.okuji@enbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200712220928.28355.okuji@enbug.org> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Switching to git? X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:18:53 -0000 On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 09:28:28AM +0100, Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote: > On Tuesday 18 December 2007 13:05, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > > - All developers are forced to install new software and learn it (always > > > a pain). > > > > Developers are used (or ought to) to learn new things since it's of > > programming art. I guess learning wouldn't be a problem. > > From a theoretical point of view, you're definitely right, but the reality > looks reverse to me. For instance, look at the inability of developers to > editors... Even if Emacs is far superior when writing GNU-style C code, vi > users never try to learn how to use Emacs. When it comes to command-line > utilities vs. graphical applications, the situation is even worse. > > In my experience, (unfortunately) developers are too lazy to change tools. > They change, only when they are forced or excited for some (geeky) reason. > This includes myself. Maybe you find interesting to know that I never use RCS (any of them) merging feature at all. I prefer to extract patches from RCS and manage them myself. I often even manage branches by hand as well. -- Robert Millan I know my rights; I want my phone call! What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.)