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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PM: Acquire device locks on suspend
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 23:34:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801062334.05982.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0801061712480.19222-100000@netrider.rowland.org>

On Sunday, 6 of January 2008, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > > Still, shouldn't we fail the removal of the device apart from giving the
> > > warning?
> > 
> > Actually, having thought about it a bit more, I don't see the point in
> > preventing the removal of the device from the list in device_pm_remove() if
> > we allow all of the operations in device_del() preceding it to be performed.
> 
> That's not the issue.  We _don't_ allow all of the operations in 
> device_del() preceding the call to device_pm_remove().  In particular, 
> the call to the device's driver's remove method will deadlock because 
> device_release_driver() always has to acquire dev->sem.
> 
> > Shouldn't we just take pm_sleep_rwsem in device_del() upfront and block on that
> > if locked?
> 
> No -- the whole idea here is to print an error message in the system
> log if a driver's resume method tries to call device_del().  Deadlock 
> is unavoidable in this case, but at least we'll know which driver is 
> guilty.

Still, if we do that, we won't need to acquire dev->sem in device_pm_remove()
any more.  Apart from this, by acqiring pm_sleep_rwsem for reading in
device_del() we can prevent a suspend from starting while the device is being
removed.

Consider, for example, the scenario possible with the $subject patch:
- device_del() starts and notices pm_sleep_rwsem unlocked, so the warning is
  not printed
- it proceeds and everything before device_pm_remove() succeeds
- now, device_suspend() is called and locks dev->sem
- device_del() calls device_pm_remove() and blocks on that with the device
  partialy removed
I think we should prevent this from happening.

Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-06 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-05 18:36 [PATCH] PM: Acquire device locks on suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-05 20:08 ` Alan Stern
2008-01-05 20:08 ` Alan Stern
2008-01-05 20:19   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-05 20:19   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-05 20:39     ` Alan Stern
2008-01-05 20:39     ` Alan Stern
2008-01-05 21:13       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-05 21:41         ` Alan Stern
2008-01-05 21:58           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06  4:04             ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06  4:04             ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 13:19               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 17:06                 ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 19:05                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 19:05                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 19:57                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 19:57                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 22:19                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 22:19                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 22:21                       ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 22:21                       ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 22:34                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-01-06 22:39                           ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 22:39                           ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 22:47                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 23:46                               ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                               ` <49505.::ffff:91.5.86.36.1199663162.squirrel@secure.sipsolutions.net>
2008-01-06 23:59                                 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07  0:49                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07  0:49                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 23:59                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07 16:16                               ` Alan Stern
2008-01-07 16:51                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07 16:51                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07 17:23                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-01-07 17:23                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-01-07 18:01                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07 19:29                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-01-07 20:37                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07 21:32                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-01-08  0:25                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-08  0:25                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-09 21:01                                               ` Alan Stern
2008-01-09 21:01                                               ` Alan Stern
2008-01-09 22:14                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-09 22:46                                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-01-09 23:29                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-10 15:35                                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-01-10 15:35                                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-01-10 16:59                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-10 16:59                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-10 17:04                                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-01-10 17:04                                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-01-09 23:29                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-09 22:46                                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-01-09 22:14                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07 21:32                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-01-07 20:37                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07 19:29                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-01-07 18:01                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-07 16:16                               ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 22:47                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 22:34                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 22:11                     ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 22:24                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 22:24                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-06 22:31                         ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 22:31                         ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 22:11                     ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 17:06                 ` Alan Stern
2008-01-06 13:19               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-05 21:58           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-05 21:41         ` Alan Stern
2008-01-05 21:13       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-01-05 18:36 Rafael J. Wysocki

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