From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1JCZRS-0005wJ-Fs for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:49:54 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JCZRQ-0005vz-R1 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:49:52 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JCZRP-0005ve-Cp for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:49:52 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JCZRP-0005vW-AA for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:49:51 -0500 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JCZRN-0007oC-73 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:49:51 -0500 Received: from [192.168.10.6] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JCZR8-00040t-7m for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:49:34 +0100 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JCZPo-00062p-5L for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:48:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 12:48:12 +0100 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20080109114812.GC11819@thorin> References: <1199798453.7601.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080108150140.GA470@thorin> <20080108152102.GA13078@thorin> <1199826360.6104.19.camel@peder.flower> <20080108214449.GA630@thorin> <1199830708.6104.36.camel@peder.flower> <20080108233326.GC10215@thorin> <1199869730.6137.8.camel@peder.flower> <20080109103523.GA11819@thorin> <1199876033.12433.2.camel@peder.flower> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1199876033.12433.2.camel@peder.flower> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: [PATCH] force load of lvm and raid before entering normal mode (Re: LVM on debian) X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:49:53 -0000 On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 11:53:53AM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Robert Millan writes: > > > Partition maps aren't really mandatory; much like lvm/raid. > > Hmm, yes of course. But having one may save your day if booting fails > and > you have useful non-lvm partitions. It is very useful if > you can browse/use all your hdx,y if booting fails? The problem with that is it can't really solve the problem, only provide a half-baked solution. If you include pc and gpt, you're misusing space in a component where it's really critical, and you still don't support all partitions GRUB might be installed on. For that, you'd have to load _all_ partition maps, which means even more space. My point is that if you try at blindly guessing which partition map is needed, whether it works or not simply depends on your luck at guessing. And if you pick more than one option, it doesn't come for free. -- Robert Millan I know my rights; I want my phone call! What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.)