From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from archon.plz.fr (archon.plz.fr [194.50.78.210]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6DFDDE0F for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:22:09 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:22:08 +0100 From: Sven Luther To: Matt Sealey Subject: Re: add phy-handle property for fec_mpc52xx Message-ID: <20080109172208.GD6789@powerlinux.fr> References: <20080109140608.GA15673@aepfle.de> <4784E78C.40904@genesi-usa.com> <20080109153511.GA5086@powerlinux.fr> <4784F695.7050507@genesi-usa.com> <20080109162923.GA6290@powerlinux.fr> <4784F803.9030003@genesi-usa.com> <20080109170540.GA6789@powerlinux.fr> <478501C0.9040905@genesi-usa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <478501C0.9040905@genesi-usa.com> Cc: Sven Luther , Olaf Hering , linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 05:17:52PM +0000, Matt Sealey wrote: > > Sven Luther wrote: > >On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 04:36:19PM +0000, Matt Sealey wrote: > >>The link that Olaf presented, www.powerdeveloper.org/asset/by-id/46 *is* > >>the upstream support for now. What his patch does is say, the upstream > >>support exists, but we don't like it, so we will supplement the patch.. > > > >Matt, your work on efika.forth is laudable, and it is nice that you took > >the time to support it. > > > >*BUT* it is not acceptable for a distribution, or for someone who will > >have to do user support, to have to launch a second binary before > >launching the kernel. Especially when netbooting for example. > > Then I think you are all missing the fact that I said there *IS A REALLY > CUTE WAY OF INSTALLING IT ONCE* by uploading it into nvramrc, it will not > be a runnable script, but executed on boot, because it'll be flashed into > nvramrc. > > However I don't have the time to go into making this app, creating the > tools to munge efika.forth into a correct more uploadable format, and > creating the install tool. I barely have enough time to track this list > and make sure any drivers requiring firmware tree changes are taken care > of (I definitely lost the plot with the USB one, I haven't even checked > it even though I was asked to 2 weeks ago..) > > Unfortunately one guy who already has a significant amount of work to do > all day, who is not the responsible person for firmware issues, and is > not being assisted by anyone in the community either generated and > maintained by Genesi or existing around Linux, poses some serious problems > with timeliness of updates. > > If anyone wants to stop patching Linux and instead make efika.forth easier > to use, feel free, REALLY. Sven, are you volunteering for this REALLY > tiny task? It will probably take all of a day for a couple of guys to > work up the tools to do it based on very simple instructions and data > provided.. the work is probably worth the price of a pizza, so no > contracts are going to be worked out for it. Just fix it conditionally in linux, like it is being proposed, and everyone is happy :) Friendly, Sven Luther