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From: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Steffen Prohaska <prohaska@zib.de>,
	Gregory Jefferis <jefferis@gmail.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: CRLF problems with Git on Win32
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:50:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080111195022.GC29189@uranus.ravnborg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0801111103420.3148@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 11:16:02AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Steffen Prohaska wrote:
> > 
> > I already started to teach everyone the new "autocrlf=input" policy to 
> > avoid these questions.
> 
> I certainly don't think "autocrlf=input" is wrong. It might even be a 
> reasonable default on Unix, although I don't think it's nearly as obvious 
> as the Windows case. I wouldn't mind using it myself, for example, 
> although probably only because I know that for the stuff I work on it 
> simply cannot possibly ever do the wrong thing.
> 
> In fact, we had a case of bogus CRLF in one of the kernel documentation 
> files for some reason that we ended up fixing by hand. "autocflf=input" 
> would have fixed it (except in that case it wouldn't have, since it came 
> from the original kernel tree, long before crlf was an issue for git ;)
> 
> So I'd say that autocrlf=input is quite possibly a good idea on Unix in 
> general, but my gut feel is still that it's not a big enough issue to be 
> actually worth making a default change over. But there's absolutely 
> nothing wrong with having it as a policy at a company that has mixed Unix 
> and Windows machines.
> 
> (Every place I've ever been at, people who had a choice would never ever 
> develop under Windows, so I've never seen any real mixing - even when some 
> parts of the project were DOS/Windows stuff, there was a clear boundary 
> between the stuff that was actually done under Windows)

The reality I see is the other way around as common practice.
For people that has never tried a Linux box the barrier
is quite high and they prefer to stick with Windows.
Where I work today and in several other places I know of the
default choice is to work on Windows and use a Linux box only
for cross compilation.
This is common practice in many smaller embedded companies
and it is also these companies that like to be able to build
Linux on a Windows box.

	Sam

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-11 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-07  9:16 CRLF problems with Git on Win32 Peter Karlsson
2008-01-07  9:57 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-07 10:00   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-07 12:15     ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-07 10:12   ` Jeff King
2008-01-07 18:47     ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-01-07 19:16       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-07 21:03         ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-01-07 21:18           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-07 21:40             ` Steffen Prohaska
     [not found]               ` <3B08AC4C-A807-4155-8AD7-DC6A6D0FE134-wjoc1KHpMeg@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-07 22:06                 ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                   ` <7vzlvhxpda.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-07 22:58                     ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                       ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0801071457040.3148-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-07 23:46                         ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-08 11:09                           ` git and unicode Gonzalo Garramuño
2008-01-08 15:09                             ` Remi Vanicat
2008-01-08 20:36                             ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-01-08  8:55                         ` CRLF problems with Git on Win32 Marius Storm-Olsen
2008-01-08  7:02                     ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-08  7:29                       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-08 10:08                         ` Jeff King
2008-01-08 10:35                           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-08 12:20                           ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-08 17:29                 ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                   ` <20080108172957.GG22155-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 17:56                     ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-08 18:07                       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-08 18:07                       ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                         ` <7vmyrgry20.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 18:58                           ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-08 19:09                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-08 19:47                               ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                                 ` <7vir24rtfp.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 20:02                                   ` Steffen Prohaska
     [not found]                                     ` <B655B6FF-9377-434A-A979-2E758771B0FA-wjoc1KHpMeg@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 20:15                                       ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                                         ` <7v3at8rs4b.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 20:39                                           ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-09 11:03                                       ` Johannes Schindelin
     [not found]                                         ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0801091100401.31053-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 12:45                                           ` Steffen Prohaska
     [not found]                                             ` <019B1C82-27BF-4B6B-981D-5498D31B5DD3-wjoc1KHpMeg@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 13:32                                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-08 20:41                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-09  8:03                                     ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                                       ` <7vd4sbmnmz.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 10:48                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-09 20:25                                           ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                                             ` <7vmyrehhkd.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 20:50                                               ` Johannes Schindelin
     [not found]                                             ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0801092047190. 31053@racer.site>
     [not found]                                               ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0801092047190.31053-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 21:03                                                 ` Steffen Prohaska
     [not found]                                           ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0801091041570.31053-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10  9:25                                             ` Peter Karlsson
     [not found]                                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801101023380.11922-Hh8n7enkEC8qi7mQTfpNuw@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10 11:57                                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-11  3:03                                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-01-11  3:03                                                   ` Miles Bader
     [not found]                                               ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.080110115 5140.31053@racer.site>
     [not found]                                                 ` <alpine.LSU.1.00.0801101155140.31053-OGWIkrnhIhzN0uC3ymp8PA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10 13:28                                                   ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-10 14:31                                                     ` Peter Harris
     [not found]                                                       ` <eaa105840801100631p6b95ed86j153d70244d474b03-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-11 13:12                                                         ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-11 15:39                                                           ` Peter Harris
2008-01-08 19:59                               ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-08 20:11                             ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                               ` <7vbq7wrsb6.fsf-jO8aZxhGsIagbBziECNbOZn29agUkmeCHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 20:20                                 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-08 20:50                             ` Dmitry Potapov
     [not found]                               ` <20080108205054.GN6951-EQL4cN526mwi5CQI31g/s0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 21:15                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-08 21:57                                   ` Robin Rosenberg
2008-01-08 21:31                                 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                   ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0801081325010.3148-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 22:09                                     ` Sean
2008-01-08 22:51                                     ` Dmitry Potapov
     [not found]                                       ` <20080108225138.GA23240-EQL4cN526mwi5CQI31g/s0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09  0:01                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-09  8:43                                     ` Abdelrazak Younes
2008-01-10 19:58                         ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-10 20:20                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-10 21:28                             ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-10 23:23                               ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-11  0:02                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11  0:32                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-11  7:10                                 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-11 15:58                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 16:28                                     ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-11 17:25                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 17:56                                         ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-11 18:10                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 18:29                                             ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-11 19:16                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 19:50                                                 ` Sam Ravnborg [this message]
2008-01-11 21:18                                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-11 22:21                                                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-12 15:08                                                   ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-12 17:54                                                 ` [PATCH] [WIP] safecrlf: Add mechanism to warn about irreversible crlf conversions Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-12 19:14                                                   ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-13  9:05                                                     ` [WIP v2] " Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-11 19:53                                             ` CRLF problems with Git on Win32 Christer Weinigel
2008-01-14  9:41                                             ` David Kågedal
2008-01-11 19:00                                       ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-12 15:26                                         ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-10 20:50                           ` Rogan Dawes
2008-01-10 21:15                             ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-11  1:15                             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-01-07 21:36           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-08 21:26             ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-09 10:56               ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-09 12:41                 ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-09 13:52                   ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-09 14:03                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-09 15:22                       ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-09 15:03                     ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-09 17:37                       ` Gregory Jefferis
2008-01-09 19:05                         ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-07 21:42           ` Thomas Neumann
2008-01-08 10:56             ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-08 11:07               ` Jeff King
2008-01-08 11:54                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-08 11:52               ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-08 13:07               ` Peter Harris
2008-01-08 15:20                 ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-08 15:58                 ` Kelvie Wong
2008-01-08 21:33                 ` Dmitry Potapov
2008-01-09 18:46               ` Jan Hudec
2008-01-07 10:13   ` Peter Klavins
2008-01-07 12:58     ` Steffen Prohaska
2008-01-07 13:50     ` Peter Karlsson
2008-01-07 14:14       ` Peter Klavins
2008-01-07 16:05       ` Steffen Prohaska

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