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From: Frank van Maarseveen <frankvm@frankvm.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Andre Majorel <aym-xunil-Bi/FLWfhfolQFI55V6+gNQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: atimes not updated over NFS
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:51:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080114175122.GB2768@janus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1200325393.7470.6.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:43:12AM -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 09:34 +0100, Frank van Maarseveen wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 12:51:53AM +0100, Andre Majorel wrote:
> > > On 2008-01-09 18:23 -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 23:37 +0100, Andre Majorel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'll take your word for it. However, let me assure you that atimes
> > > > > somehow used to work over NFS, even for files small enough to fit
> > > > > in the cache. Had they been broken, I would have known. I use Mutt.
> > > > 
> > > > How would the server know to update the atime? If the file is in cache
> > > > we don't READ.
> > > 
> > > You tell me. All I can tell you is that Mutt used to work so
> > > atimes were updated one way or another.
> > 
> > I think 2.6.22 introduced this regression. On 2.6.22.10, reading a file
> > on NFS does not affect atime according to stat(), not on the client and
> > not on the server. This breaks several programs.
> > 
> > Commands to reproduce this problem on the client:
> > 
> > 	dd </dev/zero >testfile count=1
> > 	ls -l --time=atime --full-time testfile
> > 	sleep 2
> > 	wc testfile
> > 	ls -l --time=atime --full-time testfile
> > 		(same atime, not good)
> 
> Can you confirm that it does not change on the server? If so, then we
> need to look at the server for a fix. The client should only be
> mirroring the server's idea of the correct atime.

It doesn't change on the server (2.6.23.12)

-- 
Frank

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-14 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-09 10:13 atimes not updated over NFS Andre Majorel
     [not found] ` <20080109101313.GG9212-956IwFboN44acnK+F/IuxqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 15:27   ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]     ` <1199892437.11141.2.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 22:37       ` Andre Majorel
     [not found]         ` <20080109223748.GH9212-956IwFboN44acnK+F/IuxqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 23:23           ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]             ` <1199920996.7638.3.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 23:31               ` Trond Myklebust
2008-01-09 23:51               ` Andre Majorel
     [not found]                 ` <20080109235153.GI9212-956IwFboN44acnK+F/IuxqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-14  8:34                   ` Frank van Maarseveen
2008-01-14 15:43                     ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                       ` <1200325393.7470.6.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-14 17:51                         ` Frank van Maarseveen [this message]
2008-01-21 19:06                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-21 19:31                             ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                               ` <1200943865.25562.56.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-21 21:02                                 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2008-01-21 21:09                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-22 17:17                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-29  2:59                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-29  4:14                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-29  8:34                                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-29 18:27                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-29 18:30                                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-29 19:45                                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-29 19:51                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-29 20:09                                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-29 20:12                                                       ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-29 20:37                                                 ` Andre Majorel
     [not found]                                                   ` <20080129203713.GS17213-956IwFboN44acnK+F/IuxqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 11:23                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-30 12:13                                                       ` Andre Majorel
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2007-12-26 23:12 Andre Majorel

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