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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Siddha, Suresh B" <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Cc: "Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, rdreier@cisco.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, gregkh@suse.de, airlied@skynet.ie,
	davej@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	jesse.barnes@intel.com
Subject: Re: [patch 02/11] PAT x86: Map only usable memory in x86_64 identity map and kernel text
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:17:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080115221758.GG2665@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080114212105.GB8903@linux-os.sc.intel.com>


* Siddha, Suresh B <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 05:43:24PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Pallipadi, Venkatesh <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Also, relying on MTRR, is like giving more importance to BIOS writer 
> > > than required :-). I think the best way to deal with MTRR is just to 
> > > not touch it. Leave it as it is and do not try to assume that they are 
> > > correct, as frequently they will not be.
> > 
> > i'd suggest the following strategy on PAT-capable CPUs:
> > 
> >  - do not try to write MTRRs. Ever.
> > 
> >  - _read_ the current MTRR settings (including the default MTRR) and 
> >    check them against the e820 map. I can see two basic types of 
> >    mismatches:
> > 
> >      - RAM area marked fine in e820 but marked UC by MTRR: this 
> >        currently results in a slow system.
> 
> Time to resurrect Jesse's old patches 
> i386-trim-memory-not-covered-by-wb-mtrrs.patch(which was in -mm 
> sometime back)

just to make sure i understood the attribute priorities right: we cannot 
just mark it WB in the PAT and expect it to be write-back - the UC of 
the MTRR will control?

> >        (NOTE: UC- would be fine and 
> >        overridable by PAT, hence it's not a conflict we should detect.)
> 
> UC- can't be specified by MTRR's.

hm, only by PATs? Not even by the default MTRR?

> >      - mmio area marked cacheable in the MTRR (results in broken 
> >      system)
> 
> PAT can help specify the UC/WC attribute here.

ok. So it seems we dont even need all that many special cases, a "dont 
write MTRRs" and "use PATs everywhere" rule would just do the right 
thing all across?

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-15 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-10 18:48 [patch 00/11] PAT x86: PAT support for x86 venkatesh.pallipadi
2008-01-10 18:48 ` [patch 01/11] PAT x86: Make acpi/other drivers map memory instead of assuming identity map venkatesh.pallipadi
2008-01-10 18:48 ` [patch 02/11] PAT x86: Map only usable memory in x86_64 identity map and kernel text venkatesh.pallipadi
2008-01-10 19:06   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 19:17     ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-01-10 19:28       ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 20:50         ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-01-10 21:16           ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 22:25             ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-01-10 22:35               ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-14 16:43           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-14 21:21             ` Siddha, Suresh B
2008-01-14 21:28               ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-15 22:17               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-01-15 23:11                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-15 23:21                 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2008-01-18 12:01                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-18 13:12                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-18 16:46                       ` Jesse Barnes
2008-01-18 18:12                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-18 19:02                           ` Jesse Barnes
2008-01-19  2:42                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 21:05   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-10 21:57     ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-01-10 22:15       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-10 22:27         ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-01-10 22:50         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-18 18:27           ` Dave Jones
2008-01-18 20:54             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-10 18:48 ` [patch 03/11] PAT x86: Map only usable memory in i386 identity map venkatesh.pallipadi
2008-01-10 19:10   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 18:48 ` [patch 04/11] PAT x86: Basic PAT implementation venkatesh.pallipadi
2008-01-10 18:48 ` [patch 05/11] PAT x86: drm driver changes for PAT venkatesh.pallipadi
2008-01-10 18:48 ` [patch 06/11] PAT x86: Refactoring i386 cpa venkatesh.pallipadi
2008-01-10 19:00   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-14 16:47     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-10 18:48 ` [patch 07/11] PAT x86: pat-conflict resolution using linear list venkatesh.pallipadi
2008-01-10 19:13   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 20:08     ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-01-10 18:48 ` [patch 08/11] PAT x86: pci mmap conlfict patch venkatesh.pallipadi
2008-01-10 18:48 ` [patch 09/11] PAT x86: Add ioremap_wc support venkatesh.pallipadi
2008-01-10 19:08   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 19:25     ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-01-12  0:18       ` Roland Dreier
2008-01-10 18:48 ` [patch 10/11] PAT x86: Handle /dev/mem mappings venkatesh.pallipadi
2008-01-10 18:48 ` [patch 11/11] PAT x86: Expose uc and wc interfaces in /sysfs vor pci_mmap_resource venkatesh.pallipadi
2008-01-10 19:43   ` Greg KH
2008-01-10 20:54     ` [patch 11/11] PAT x86: Expose uc and wc interfaces in /sysfsvor pci_mmap_resource Pallipadi, Venkatesh

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