From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1JJvXJ-000438-DG for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:50:21 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJvXH-00042d-SF for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:50:19 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJvXG-00041h-93 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:50:19 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJvXF-00041S-QI for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:50:17 -0500 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JJvXF-0008NS-Ak for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:50:17 -0500 Received: from [192.168.10.6] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JJvXC-0002VR-60; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:50:16 +0100 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JJvVV-0003eG-EA; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:48:29 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:48:29 +0100 From: Robert Millan To: tgingold@free.fr Message-ID: <20080129184829.GE12993@thorin> References: <20080128165504.GB9715@thorin> <20080129051252.GA2504@saphi> <20080129095922.GA31756@thorin> <1201602926.479f016e27f08@imp.free.fr> <20080129113219.GA22894@thorin> <1201611409.479f22918bed6@imp.free.fr> <20080129131934.GB26291@thorin> <871w80adut.fsf@xs4all.nl> <20080129153052.GA5363@thorin> <1201624700.479f567c0784f@imp.free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1201624700.479f567c0784f@imp.free.fr> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Cc: The development of GRUB 2 Subject: Re: IA64 port X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:50:20 -0000 On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 05:38:20PM +0100, tgingold@free.fr wrote: > Quoting Robert Millan : > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 03:46:50PM +0100, Marco Gerards wrote: > > > In this case, FAT is modified so fit the need of EFI. However, FAT is > > > case insensitive. On windows C:\FOO.TXT is the same as c:\foo.txt. > > > Although I have troubles believing people want to use a technically > > > flawed non-free OS that costs a lot of money. But that might be > > > something personally ;-) > > > > > > What matters is that it is normal that FAT is not case sensitive. > > > It's defined that way. This change can't and won't be made for ext2, > > > for example. You can have a ~/foo and ~/FOO side by side. AFAIK, > > > this is not possible with FAT. So I think this patch is ok :-) > > > > I may lack some perspective on how FAT works internally, so please bear with > > me, but as far as I can see: > > > > - FAT is not really case insensitive any more than its path names are > > 8.3-limited. It originally was, but latest revisions don't enforce > > these limitations. > > FAT is now case preserving but still case insensitive. Like MacOS filesystem. AFAIK, there's no standard specifiing FAT, only a few implementations that act de-facto as a "reference". Because of this, it is up to us to decide what is "standard" and what is just an OS-dependant oddity. Since the choice is arbitrary, why not choose based on the merits of each option, rather than based on what some implementations do? -- Robert Millan I know my rights; I want my phone call! What use is a phone call… if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.)